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Irrelevant since we're discussion Canadian police and firearm use in that thread and The Captain is Canadian.
Speaking directly to those cases, they all confirm that you have no standing to sue the police for not protecting you, the individual. They all clearly state that the function of the police is to protect the individual. I think that YOU need to spend the time to read the cases or at least the Westlaw version.
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I understand that there is a difference between canadian law and US law, however, you have the court rulings wrong. It clearly states the the police are not liable for INDIVIDUAL protection, they are only there to serve society as a whole.
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You're splitting hairs here. The statement is that guns kill people accidentally. This goes to show that guns are dangerous.
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lots of things are dangerous. guns less so than lots of other things.
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The Kellerman study was certainly done with some shaky statistics. He may still be right, but the way that he arrived at his conclusions was certainly questionable.
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It's extremely shaky and questionable to arrive at that number when you include suicides in the total as well as excluding any defensive uses when the gun is used outside the home (which was a majority of the uses to begin with)
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Actually it is true and made news in insurance circles since auto deaths have lead all non-disease deaths for something like 65 or 75 years (I don't remember the exact number). Also, the stats that your quoting are nationwide and not state-specific, which is what James_T_Kirk is quoting. To refute, you need to find state-specific data.
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Alaska, Maryland and Nevada as well as D.C.
Maryland has some of the most restrictive gun control laws in the nation, so it makes me wonder how many of those firearm deaths are crime related/gang related as compared to accidental.
D.C. has a total gun ban so all of those have to be crime related/gang related.
Nevada, not having enough of an idea about the nature of the state other than gambling...how many are suicides?
Alaska......you got me. everybody walks?