From another thread:
http://www.tfproject.org/tfp/showpos...1&postcount=61
Originally Posted by dksuddeth
So if you hear gunshots down the street and see 2 or 3 people chasing and shooting at a lone individual, you'd leave your target rifle locked in its place and dial 911??
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Originally Posted by JamesTKirk
Yeah, that's what the cops are there for.
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Lets hope that never happens to you, because If I got shot and then found out later that somebody could have stopped it before it took the cop 10 minutes to get there, I'd be pissed.
Maybe you should take a look at some court cases like
Warren v. District of Columbia,
DeShaney v. Winnebago County Department of Social Services., or
Hartzler v. City of San Jose
The police are under no obligation to protect you as an individual.
So, if the police aren't going to protect us, who will?
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Originally Posted by JamesTKirk
The fact of the matter is that more people get shot by guns accidently in the USA than ever get shot by bad guys.
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wrong
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Originally Posted by JamesTKirk
Every hour in America, four people are killed by firearms. (Centers for Disease Control)
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This statement does not include specifics like gang related deaths, deaths by police officers, OR those killed by people using self defense.
meaningless without that.
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Originally Posted by JamesTKirk
A gun in your home makes it three times more likely that you or someone you care about will be murdered by a family member or intimate partner (Kellerman,New England Journal of Medicine v329, n.15 1993)
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Kellermans study was debunked quite a few years ago, even acknowledged by the CDC. The only groups that still use it are the VPC and the Brady campaign because they refuse to look at the real numbers.
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Originally Posted by JamesTKirk
Gun violence is the second-leading cause of injury-related fatalities in the US after car accidents. In Alaska, Maryland and Nevada as well as D.C., firearm death rates in 1998 exceeded those for car accidents. (CDC & Natnl. Vital Statistics Report, 1999)
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This is not true either. Firearm misuse causes only a small number of accidental deaths in the U.S.
For example, compared to accidental death from firearms, you are:
• Four times more likely to burn to death or drown
• 17 times more likely to be poisoned
• 19 times more likely to fall
• And 53 times more likely to die in an automobile accident
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Originally Posted by JamesTKirk
One million Americans have died in firearm homicides, suicides, and unintentional shootings since 1962. (Fatal Firearm Injuries in the United States 1962-1994. Violence Surveillance Summary Series, No. 3, 1997; Deaths: Final Data for 1995- 1997, National Vital Statistics Report
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Again, no breakdown as to the relation of how these deaths occurred. meaningless.