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I may have misinterpreted your response, my response was concerning defensive purposes only. For a bad guy, it makes sense to have the gun drawn during the robbery. That way people will take you more serious. A LOT of armed robberies take place every day. The overwhelming majority end with nobody being shot. Based on the statistics, its safe to say that in almost all situations, if you follow orders and don't try to be a hero, nobody will get hurt.
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that may be, but i like being alive and would rather not pin my hopes of staying alive on the odds against someone who's already committing a violent crime.
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Originally Posted by Kutulu
-Of course, if you have data showing the number of armed robberies, along wtih the number of shootings that was broken down between victims that complied and those who didn't, I've love to see it.
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I've never looked that up personally, in fact, not sure i've read that anywhere. i'll see what i can find. the only foreseeable issue might be in classification. I don't think law enforcement adds a subcategory of homicide related to robbery. but we'll see.
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What difference does it make? The point is when you start shooting you put everyone within range at risk. Even people sitting in their homes are at risk. Your right to protect yourself does not include allowing you to hit a bystander with an errant bullet.
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What difference does it make? Do you think the criminals give a damn whether they hit an innocent bystander? I assure you that law abiding citizens who are licensed to carry DO give a damn. THATS why they (they as in most, not all) go to the range regularly and a hell of a lot more than some cops do. less than 1% of all shootings by legally licensed carriers EVER hit an innocent bystander. compare that to how many are hit by criminals.
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Originally Posted by kutulu
Care to back that up? I see people openly carry all the time in Phoenix. I prefer open carry because it makes a statement. Concealed carry should never be legal. People on the street have a right to know if the guy next to them is packing. Business owners should also have the right to not allow weapons of any kind in their stores and concealed carry gives someone the opportunity to sneak in with a gun.
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Open carry is perfectly acceptable by most everyone in arizona, thats why my wife and I will be moving there after her kids graduate high school in a few years.
Open carry in any rural area of wisconsin will hardly go noticed, however, if you carry in any heavily populated area, you WILL attract the attention of law enforcement and if someone freaks out and dials 911 about 'man with a gun', you'll get cited for disorderly conduct. I've read too many stories of people getting harrassed for doing something that is perfectly within the law(open carry) because some freaked out anti-gun person doesn't want it to be legal. Believe me, I'd much prefer open carry in all 50 states myself. It just isn't going to happen with all the people who hate/fear guns.