View Single Post
Old 03-17-2006, 01:11 PM   #59 (permalink)
dksuddeth
Junkie
 
Location: bedford, tx
Quote:
Originally Posted by willravel
Understood. I'm starting to think that me using my family and you using your family is comparing apples and oranges. My wife and I are of one mind about violence and guns, and you and your family are of another opinion. I suspect the reason a gun would be inneffective in my house has just as much to do with our unwillingness to fire as it has with statistics and household defence measures.
That may be and my wife doesn't help the issue much. She is a pacifist in that she doesn't believe that ANY life should be taken, yet in the same breath will tell you that anyone who tried to harm her kids would face death at her hands....and then she'll admit to being a hypocrite but thats how it is. She thinks I should feel the same way but then is glad that I at least have the capability of defending them, even though she doesn't agree with it...drives me

Quote:
Originally Posted by willravel
I understand that, but the ruling does not limit the ability of the police, so it's simply an issue of legal liability. If a cop is driving by my house and sees the front door kicked in, I suspect that he will pull over, call for backup, and investigate.
again, I don't doubt that 99% of the police out there WANT to be able to, its just a sad fact that they can't protect everyone all the time. You have to be responsible for your/family safety/lives.

Quote:
Originally Posted by willravel
To me 1-5 home invasions a day seems kinda small.
On my street, where the worst crime is generally a car being broke in to, has just ventured in to the robbery assault category. An elderly woman who lives on the far side of the street was followed from her place of work, knocked down in the driveway, and had her purse stolen. Luckily, she ended up with nothing but some scrapes and bruises but it could have been much worse. This lady now has my cell phone number and she is to call me if she sees anything suspicious or unnerving to her. crime has an ugly way of escalating in areas and I feel its just a matter of time before one or two home invasions happen in my neighborhood.

Quote:
Originally Posted by willravel
Reconcile the odds that having a gun in the home will lead to accedental injury or death versus the odds of successfully deterring a violent crimninal invading your home.
Seeing how I am the only one that carries it, except the two months I was working out of state, I'm confident enough that accidents won't happen. Now all I have to worry about is something happening while I'm not there.

Quote:
Originally Posted by willravel
Thank you. I'd be more than glad to have a seperate conversation with you in philosophy about the teachings of the bible.
No thank you. my head hurts enough at the end of the day just debating what I do now. maybe in the future though.

Quote:
Originally Posted by willravel
My only concern is that people less responsible than yourself are a greater danger to society when they have a gun.
that should be everyones concern. Through the years many measures have been taken to do as much as possible to prevent that from happening. Nothing is foolproof though. I don't see how tighter gun control laws will work when DC, chicago, new jersey, and california have some of the strictest around, yet have some of the highest crime rates. Let those people, who have no violent criminal records, have the ability to defend themselves using the current laws in place.
__________________
"no amount of force can control a free man, a man whose mind is free. No, not the rack, not fission bombs, not anything. You cannot conquer a free man; the most you can do is kill him."
dksuddeth is offline  
 

1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 50 51 52 53 54 55 56 57 58 59 60 61 62 63 64 65 66 67 68 69 70 71 72 73 74 75 76 77 78 79 80 81 82 83 84 85 86 87 88 89 90 91 92 93 94 95 96 97 98 99 100 101 102 103 104 105 106 107 108 109 110 111 112 113 114 115 116 117 118 119 120 121 122 123 124 125 126 127 128 129 130 131 132 133 134 135 136 137 138 139 140 141 142 143 144 145 146 147 148 149 150 151 152 153 154 155 156 157 158 159 160 161 162 163 164 165 166 167 168 169 170 171 172 173 174 175 176 177 178 179 180 181 182 183 184 185 186 187 188 189 190 191 192 193 194 195 196 197 198 199 200 201 202 203 204 205 206 207 208 209 210 211 212 213 214 215 216 217 218 219 220 221 222 223 224 225 226 227 228 229 230 231 232 233 234 235 236 237 238 239 240 241 242 243 244 245 246 247 248 249 250 251 252 253 254 255 256 257 258 259 260 261 262 263 264 265 266 267 268 269 270 271 272 273 274 275 276 277 278 279 280 281 282 283 284 285 286 287 288 289 290 291 292 293 294 295 296 297 298 299 300 301 302 303 304 305 306 307 308 309 310 311 312 313 314 315 316 317 318 319 320 321 322 323 324 325 326 327 328 329 330 331 332 333 334 335 336 337 338 339 340 341 342 343 344 345 346 347 348 349 350 351 352 353 354 355 356 357 358 359 360