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Originally Posted by willravel
Understood. I'm starting to think that me using my family and you using your family is comparing apples and oranges. My wife and I are of one mind about violence and guns, and you and your family are of another opinion. I suspect the reason a gun would be inneffective in my house has just as much to do with our unwillingness to fire as it has with statistics and household defence measures.
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That may be and my wife doesn't help the issue much. She is a pacifist in that she doesn't believe that ANY life should be taken, yet in the same breath will tell you that anyone who tried to harm her kids would face death at her hands....and then she'll admit to being a hypocrite but thats how it is. She thinks I should feel the same way but then is glad that I at least have the capability of defending them, even though she doesn't agree with it...drives me
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Originally Posted by willravel
I understand that, but the ruling does not limit the ability of the police, so it's simply an issue of legal liability. If a cop is driving by my house and sees the front door kicked in, I suspect that he will pull over, call for backup, and investigate.
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again, I don't doubt that 99% of the police out there WANT to be able to, its just a sad fact that they can't protect everyone all the time. You have to be responsible for your/family safety/lives.
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Originally Posted by willravel
To me 1-5 home invasions a day seems kinda small.
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On my street, where the worst crime is generally a car being broke in to, has just ventured in to the robbery assault category. An elderly woman who lives on the far side of the street was followed from her place of work, knocked down in the driveway, and had her purse stolen. Luckily, she ended up with nothing but some scrapes and bruises but it could have been much worse. This lady now has my cell phone number and she is to call me if she sees anything suspicious or unnerving to her. crime has an ugly way of escalating in areas and I feel its just a matter of time before one or two home invasions happen in my neighborhood.
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Originally Posted by willravel
Reconcile the odds that having a gun in the home will lead to accedental injury or death versus the odds of successfully deterring a violent crimninal invading your home.
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Seeing how I am the only one that carries it, except the two months I was working out of state, I'm confident enough that accidents won't happen. Now all I have to worry about is something happening while I'm not there.
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Originally Posted by willravel
Thank you. I'd be more than glad to have a seperate conversation with you in philosophy about the teachings of the bible.
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No thank you. my head hurts enough at the end of the day just debating what I do now.

maybe in the future though.
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Originally Posted by willravel
My only concern is that people less responsible than yourself are a greater danger to society when they have a gun.
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that should be everyones concern. Through the years many measures have been taken to do as much as possible to prevent that from happening. Nothing is foolproof though. I don't see how tighter gun control laws will work when DC, chicago, new jersey, and california have some of the strictest around, yet have some of the highest crime rates. Let those people, who have no violent criminal records, have the ability to defend themselves using the current laws in place.