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Originally Posted by dksuddeth
I have to apologize here. I was unaware that your example was someone 'purposefully' trying to cut you off. Knowing that, my answer would be IF you can feasibly get away and be safe, do so, just like people who carry guns for self defense. IF you can get away without firing, do so.
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I understand what you're saying. I may not agree, but I understand.
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Originally Posted by dksuddeth
but, in my opinion, having a gun increases my survival rate more than if i'm unarmed.
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If there was a sumation of my point in this big old discussion, it would be that while a gun could protect you, it also is very dangerous. Also, the idea that you would need to kill someone frightens me. 'Justifiable homocide' is a dangerous term. I'm not convinced that a gun can protect my family, and owning a gun is dangerous even when appropriate steps are taken to hide it or keep it locked away.
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Originally Posted by dksuddeth
At the moment, I only have one gun. I carry it on me inside the house so it's everywhere that I go. I'd have two, but the wife refuses to deal with one so I see no need to have an extra just lying around. When my stepson gets to an age I feel he's responsible enough, I'll train him and get him his own.
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Understood. I'm starting to think that me using my family and you using your family is comparing apples and oranges. My wife and I are of one mind about violence and guns, and you and your family are of another opinion. I suspect the reason a gun would be inneffective in my house has just as much to do with our unwillingness to fire as it has with statistics and household defence measures.
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Originally Posted by dksuddeth
which means that law enforcement is not responsible for your protection, you are. I don't want you to misunderstand or misconstrue this ruling. Police are NOT responsible for your safety as an individual, only to the public in general, therefore if you call the police and are then killed before they get there, they are not liable. YOU are the ultimate responsibility for your safety.
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I understand that, but the ruling does not limit the ability of the police, so it's simply an issue of legal liability. If a cop is driving by my house and sees the front door kicked in, I suspect that he will pull over, call for backup, and investigate.
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Originally Posted by dksuddeth
A sizable percentage? What size would that be? I don't have an accurate percentage because the FBI and most law enforcement are still categorizing home invasions as burglaries/robberies. By frequenting the few pro-gun sites that I do, I read at least 1-5 violent home invasions (on average) on a weekly basis and authorities say this is slowly increasing. You'll read more on this in that link I posted earlier.
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I read the link, and it was a very good source of information. To me 1-5 home invasions a day seems kinda small.
(forgive my math, I'm pretty sure these are close)
Odds of being the victim of a violent home invasion : maybe 13,500,000 to 1
Odds of dating a supermodel: 88,000 to 1
Odds of being murdered: 18,000 to 1
Odds of being considered possessed by Satan: 7,000 to 1
Odds of finding out your child is a genius: 250 to 1 (Willravel crosses fingers)
Odds of writing a New York Times best seller: 220 to 1.
http://funny2.com/odds.htm
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Originally Posted by dksuddeth
reconcile what? that the odds of your families survival is higher against a home invasion if you have a gun? thats pretty easy to reconcile.
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Reconcile the odds that having a gun in the home will lead to accedental injury or death versus the odds of successfully deterring a violent crimninal invading your home.
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Originally Posted by dksuddeth
interpretations can cause confusion, i'll agree.
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Thank you. I'd be more than glad to have a seperate conversation with you in philosophy about the teachings of the bible.
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Originally Posted by dksuddeth
nobody wants to kill people when they defend themselves.....ok, maybe some do. I'm not one of them. I don't want to kill, or even shoot, anyone and I sincerely hope that I never have to. But if there is ever a time when I'm forced into a situation of kill or be killed......better them than me. I love my family and wish to spend as much time with them as I can.
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I know that you are a responsible gun owner. I never expect that you would derive pleasure from shooting at someone, or that you would seek out a confrontation. I know that only in the absolutely last resort fire your gun. My only concern is that people less responsible than yourself are a greater danger to society when they have a gun.