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or he could have run you off the road in fear of his life. a ridiculous example.
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My intent was to put fourth a ridiculous example. Of course it IS comparable to the hypothetical situations we've been shooting back and fourth. If someone is intentionally trying to cut me off, then he is using a 3000 pouund weapon against me, giving me the right to defend myself and my family with whatever means necessary, right? I mean "my life is more important than the guy/girl who's trying to" cut me off, right? Why not pull a gun and try do defend my family? Well because it's obviously extreemly dangerous. If he has a car and I'm shooting at him, he very well could try to run me off the road. AIf I open fire on a home invader, he very well could pull a gun and shoot me. Despite the obvious sillieness of my example, there are comparisons to be drawn.
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and in some cases STILL hasn't stopped the murder afterwards.
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Yes, my way of simply giving the robber what he wants doesn't have a 100% success rate. Neither does pulling a gun, though.
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I'll read it as soon as I finish posting.
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Home invasions occur a number of ways. Criminals are starting to specialize in home invasions as well. Some imitate police and act like they are executing search warrants. Others cut phone lines, which also disable alarms. A gun can cost around $150. How much is the security system, doors, bars on windows, motion detectors?
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Security doors start at about $50 and can go as high as $1000, just like a gun. But why, baed on your logic, would ou have only one gun? What if you're in thre bathroom when a robber strikes? Odds are your gun is in a den, living room, bedroom, etc., not the bathroom. If you buy several guns for several locations in the house, how is that different than buying one security door for each door?
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it assumes a duty only to the public at large and not to individual members of the community what part of that did you miss?
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I missed the part where it said anything about the responsibility of citizens, as the ruling was about police officers alone. It implied no lagal responsibility to citizens.
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not ALL home invaders are interested in just robbery. A sizable percentage have much more serious crimes on their mind. If you train, you don't miss and if you DO miss, most of the time the invaders will flee upon hearing someone other than themselves shoot. On the chance that you have one of the more fearless kind on your hands, Like this darwin award nominee who states "he was a big boy and that 'I think I could take 'em,'" when told he could have been shot, have alot of ammo. |
A sizable percentage? What size would that be?
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yes, I understand that you'll put the odds in favor of the home invader not doing anything to you/your family instead of the odds in your favor should they try.
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And what is your response to that? It's not safe to not have a gun, but it's also not safe to have a gun? How do you reconcile that?
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If you've actually read/studied the bible and the teachings of christ, you'd know that your life is a gift from god and to not honor/protect that gift is an affront to god. You are seriously misinterpeting 'thou shalt not murder' to also mean 'thou shalt not defend thy life'. in your mind, is there any justified killing? would killing dahmer or gacy, before they had a chance to harm as many as they did, be justified? hitler? stalin? the BTK killer? how about mcveigh?
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I'e studied the teachings of many religious figures, including Jesus Christ. My father is a Pastor, actually.
We all know that an interpretation can't be argued with because we don't know who's right, therefore arguing over different perspectives of the bible and God's word is a big fat waste of time. Let's leave it at that.
Stopping people with the intent to hurt or kill is good. Killing people is not.