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Originally Posted by dksuddeth
robberies, rapes, murders....they happen every day. you choose to break it down to a percentage validation claim to support your argument that only law enforcement should have guns which really means that those civilian victims lives dont mean that much to you. I do not misunderstand your POINT, the only thing I misunderstand is that you are comfortable with the odds in your families favor of never being a victim. The one time you are wrong though could prove disastrous. I hope that works out for you. My family is worth more than that to me though.
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Note: here you say you have a firearm to protect your family; your family is worht a ton to you and you have a gun to protect it.
We all live with dangerous odds every day. The aforementioned almost car crash made me a statistic. I'm more likely to be involved in an auto accedent than be robbed or have my home invaded. Do I carry a gun in my car? Of course not.
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Originally Posted by dksuddeth
I didn't say 'billy the kid', I said 'billy bad ass'. If you were 'billy the kid', you'd have shot him.
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Um, who cares? My point is that, despite the fact that my $50 could have bought food or medicine or whatever, I made the dicision that $50 isn't worth me trying to hit someone or shoot someone. I see life as being precious, no matter how one chooses to live it. If someone is a nobel peace prize winner, great! Thast person's life is no more or less important that someone who is so poor they have to rob people just to eat.
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Originally Posted by dksuddeth
Yes, I would have pulled my gun and told him to back off and leave. I don't make alot and $50 dollars feeds my family, thats more important to me than someone who wants to steal it from me.
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This is dangerous. Where do you draw the line? $40? $30? $5? How much is this vagrent's life worth to you?
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Originally Posted by dksuddeth
read up on the case of Hale Demar vs. willow grove illinois. Willow Grove passed a handgun ban in the 80s. Willow Grove is a nice little subdivision which has SOME crime, but nothing major. One nite, Hales house was broken in to, some stuff stolen including his SUV. The next nite, the same thief came back, opened the door with keys he had stolen the nite before and proceeded to rob the place. Hale then shot the thief with his handgun. Willow Grove tried to prosecute him for defending his home and children. The thief was NOT from his neighborhood.
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You said "If the neigborhood animal decided to shoot you", which communicates that this person (or animal) is from my neightborhood. I answered your question. My situation applies no matter where the person is from. House invasions while the family is home durring the day are more trare than lightning strikes, so I won't even address that. If someone comes towards my house at night, the lights will turn on automatically, and not only will he lose the opportunity to surprise me, but I will know there is movement out there. The mear fact that the light turned on is a deturent. ALSO, my windows and drapes are closed at night, so he really wouldn't know where we all were in the house. Usually we're all in the master beedroom, which has direct access to the basement, and thus the bomb shelter. I have security doors which are locked at night, therefore he would have to come in throight the window. This situation becomes less and less dangerous for me and my family. Eventually, I just have to say, "I am more likely to be a lottery winner than have this situation happen, so planning for it by putting a VERY dangerous weapon in my house seems unnecessary."
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Originally Posted by dksuddeth
All the while, the bad guys have free reign to take whatever they want.
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You seriously underestimate police officers.
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Originally Posted by dksuddeth
and its been you. A gun CAN, notice i said CAN, improve the odds in your favor. Not sure how it would make you LESS safe. Whether you're assaulted by bat, gun, or knife and you are unarmed, you are at the assaulters mercy. The NRA rules for storing a gun are BS, in my opinion, and are there only to placate the brady bunch and their groupies. Because you are so convinced that guns will only make you less safe, you will not understand me.
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A gun could make me less safe because guns are weapons that can kill you and I have a 2 year old girl. Yes, I can take the necessary safe guards to ensure she can't get the gun, but why would I want to gamble with my daughter's life? So what if the odds of her getting the gun out of a locked drawer or safe are 1,000,000 to 1? You can't gamble with your family's safety!
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Originally Posted by dksuddeth
I refer to a previous post by you where you claim your 'faith' would prevent you from taking a life. I can only assume that you would rather die at the hands of a murderer than to take his life. Tell me I'm wrong.
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I'm a pacifist, so yes. That doesn't mean I wouldn't take measures to defend myself in a given situation. If someone tries to hit me, I try to block. If someone shoots at me, I take cover. If someone shoots at my daughter, I get between the shooter and my daughter. I do take responsibility for the lives of my family, make no mistake. I simply refuse to become what I hate: a killer.