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Originally Posted by willravel
The average citizen does not get robbed every day. That's just silly. I should also mention that non police outnumber police by a very substantial margin. If you were to run a fair comparison, you'd find that, BY PERCENTAGE, more police are killed than civilians. That's it.
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according to the 1994 FBI report '“Law Enforcement Officers Killed and Assaulted”, police were twice as likely to be killed with their own weapon.
robberies, rapes, murders....they happen every day. you choose to break it down to a percentage validation claim to support your argument that only law enforcement should have guns which really means that those civilian victims lives dont mean that much to you. I do not misunderstand your POINT, the only thing I misunderstand is that you are comfortable with the odds in your families favor of never being a victim. The one time you are wrong though could prove disastrous. I hope that works out for you. My family is worth more than that to me though.
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Originally Posted by willravel
Did I kick the guys ass? No. I gave him my wallet. Therefore, your acertion that I am the "Billy the Kid" type is unfounded and completly incorrect.
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I didn't say 'billy the kid', I said 'billy bad ass'. If you were 'billy the kid', you'd have shot him.
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Originally Posted by willravel
As for respect for life, I said that $50 isn't worth me taking a man's life. Had you been in my situation, it seems (by your attitude in the posts) that you could very well have pulled a gun on the theif. I proved that was completly unnecessary because once he had the $50, he ran off.
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Yes, I would have pulled my gun and told him to back off and leave. I don't make alot and $50 dollars feeds my family, thats more important to me than someone who wants to steal it from me.
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Originally Posted by willravel
What is a "neighborhood animal", and why would it/he/she want to shoot me? If some person in my neighborhood were to want to shoot me (which is absurd because I know everyone in my neighhborhood, but whatever),
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read up on the case of Hale Demar vs. willow grove illinois. Willow Grove passed a handgun ban in the 80s. Willow Grove is a nice little subdivision which has SOME crime, but nothing major. One nite, Hales house was broken in to, some stuff stolen including his SUV. The next nite, the same thief came back, opened the door with keys he had stolen the nite before and proceeded to rob the place. Hale then shot the thief with his handgun. Willow Grove tried to prosecute him for defending his home and children.
The thief was NOT from his neighborhood.
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Originally Posted by willravel
he would need to take one of make 3 ways to get onto my property, all of which have security lighting. Once he loses the element of surprise, I have enough time to get myself, my wife and my daughter into the basement and into my bomb shelter. If he has a gun that can shoot into my bomb shelter, he deserves the kill. Of course, I've never had anyone come onto my property illegally, let alone with a gun to try and kill me, so it's really moot until that happens.
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All the while, the bad guys have free reign to take whatever they want.
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Originally Posted by willravel
Crime does happen. Reread that so you uinderstand. Crime happens, but a gun won't make me any safer. As a matter of fact, buying a gun would make me less safe, espically if I followed the NRA rules for storing a gun. Because you are so convinced that guns help people, you'll never understand me. One of us has been indoctrinated.
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and its been you. A gun CAN, notice i said CAN, improve the odds in your favor. Not sure how it would make you LESS safe. Whether you're assaulted by bat, gun, or knife and you are unarmed, you are at the assaulters mercy. The NRA rules for storing a gun are BS, in my opinion, and are there only to placate the brady bunch and their groupies. Because you are so convinced that guns will only make you less safe, you will not understand me.
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Originally Posted by willravel
As soon as you wrote "Way to show that religious compassion." you lost your argument. Once you leave the realm of the facts presented and the opinions about them and strike out at the other person, you've lost. This discusssion OBVIOUSLY has nothing to do with religion, but you decided to bring it up to make your side seem more correct.
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I refer to a previous post by you where you claim your 'faith' would prevent you from taking a life. I can only assume that you would rather die at the hands of a murderer than to take his life. Tell me I'm wrong.