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Originally Posted by dksuddeth
Total BS. the citizen is in more danger because THEY are targets for predators. cops do not get robbed everyday, the average citizen does. Take a look at ALL the murders around any city, what kind of person is killed more? cops or the average citizen? When was the last serial cop killer compared to the last serial killer who preyed on non-police?
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The average citizen does not get robbed every day. That's just silly. I should also mention that non police outnumber police by a very substantial margin. If you were to run a fair comparison, you'd find that, BY PERCENTAGE, more police are killed than civilians. That's it.
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Originally Posted by dksuddeth
My safety isn't the issue? tell me will, if my safety is irrelevant, is your daughters?
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I wasn't talking to you. Also, whenever we have discussions abot this, I make tha rgument about the statistics of various ways you are in danger. Then you misunderstand the point and get angry. Let me make this abundently clear: I'm not going to repeat myself.
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Originally Posted by dksuddeth
Again, I'm amazed and dumbfounded that you have so little respect for life, especially your own. How many times would you have to be robbed and your family denied the things they need, like food, shelter, and security before you understand that YOU are responsible for yourself? I, for one, am tired of the 'billy bad ass' attitude that people have and THINK that they could just kick the ass of any skinny little runt with a knife or a gun. If the neigborhood animal decided to shoot you afterwards, would you feel differently about having a gun? probably not since you feel your life isn't worth saving.
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Did I kick the guys ass? No. I gave him my wallet. Therefore, your acertion that I am the "Billy the Kid" type is unfounded and completly incorrect. As for respect for life, I said that $50 isn't worth me taking a man's life. Had you been in my situation, it seems (by your attitude in the posts) that you could very well have pulled a gun on the theif. I proved that was completly unnecessary because once he had the $50, he ran off. What is a "neighborhood animal", and why would it/he/she want to shoot me? If some person in my neighborhood were to want to shoot me (which is absurd because I know everyone in my neighhborhood, but whatever), he would need to take one of make 3 ways to get onto my property, all of which have security lighting. Once he loses the element of surprise, I have enough time to get myself, my wife and my daughter into the basement and into my bomb shelter. If he has a gun that can shoot into my bomb shelter, he deserves the kill. Of course, I've never had anyone come onto my property illegally, let alone with a gun to try and kill me, so it's really moot until that happens.
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Originally Posted by dksuddeth
talk about denial of reality. crime doesn't happen, its only a figment of your imagination. You've obviously stuck your head in the sand. It's that or what I'm really hearing you say is that YOUR life is more important than mine, marvs, or anyone elses so you would rather have us be victimized, criminalized, and murdered instead of the exremely improbably chance that you'll get shot with a random bullet from one of our guns. Way to show that religious compassion.
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Crime does happen. Reread that so you uinderstand. Crime happens, but a gun won't make me any safer. As a matter of fact, buying a gun would make me less safe, espically if I followed the NRA rules for storing a gun. Because you are so convinced that guns help people, you'll never understand me. One of us has been indoctrinated.
As soon as you wrote "Way to show that religious compassion." you lost your argument. Once you leave the realm of the facts presented and the opinions about them and strike out at the other person, you've lost. This discusssion OBVIOUSLY has nothing to do with religion, but you decided to bring it up to make your side seem more correct.