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Old 01-29-2006, 11:34 AM   #41 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by rlbond86
Here is something I thought of the other day:

God cannot both be all-good and all-powerful.
I'm not sure there is anything in there stateing that God is "All Good". All good things are God, maybe. But, it does state that "Everything serves God's will", so that would mean God is all good AND all bad. If you believe he is all powerful.

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Originally Posted by rlbond86
Take the Holocaust, a clearly horrible tragedy in which 12 million were mercilessly slaughtered due to the will of an evil dictator.

God did not intervene.

This leads to three possibilities:

1. God wanted the Holocaust to happen: God, for some reason, MADE the Holocaust happen. It was His will. But clearly a good God would not murder 12 million of His creations, especially after that whole rainbow-covenant thing, if you believe that stuff.
Nope. I think you are way out of bounds on this call. God didn't want it to happen. A short little murderous fucktard wanted it to happen. Freewill is a bitch. Enough people went along with it that clearly a lot of people wanted it to happen, otherwise, it wouldn't have, and, as per the whole free will thing, God stayed out of it, and let us deal with our own actions. God didn't make it happen. We did. Humans. And us alone. Not one of our finer moments, if you ask me.

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Originally Posted by rlbond86
2. God did not intervene for some reason: One reason or another, God decided not to intervene. However, it seems odd that a good God would be apathetic to such a situation. Thus the only likely solution for this possibility is the "clockmaker" God, who created the universe but now does not intervene in events, or only works "small" miracles. Yet then, God would have restricted His powers and thus would no longer be all-powerful. But if God does not intervene at all, why pray at all? Unless he still works small miracles. Just don't ask for world peace
I really doubt God was apathetic to it. I think he was crying his eyes out. I don't think he liked it, but with that kind of power comes a level of self controle, that as much as he hated it, he stayed out and let freewill run it's course.


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No Bible stuff, please.
That is kind of hard to do, given the topic.
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