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Old 01-25-2006, 06:28 AM   #21 (permalink)
samcol
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My definition is narrow. I do not consider protesters terrorist. Suicide bombers are.
That's a nice tidbit of totally useless information. Who YOU consider a terrorist means absolutely nothing. The definition of terrorism that matters is the one that the people who legislate, enforce, and interpret the law use. Do you not understand that all you have to is commit ANY crime that can be considered to endanger human life and sway public opinion and you could be tried as a terrorist? This could be as simple as having an "un-permitted" protest .

And that's all if you're lucky enough to go through the legal system. If the attorney general or homeland security secretary considers you a terrorist or enemy combatant, that's it you're finished. The executive branch becomes judge, jury and executioner and you're detained indefinetly and possibly subjected to all the things we hear about that is totally acceptable for terrorists like no habeas corpus, torture etc. Remember what happened at the RNC? Masses of protestors were just swept up in orange netting and thrown in old abestos and oil filled bus depots for days even after a judge said it was illegal. That could become the norm rather than the exception if we continue down this path.

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If people are going to "demonstrate" they should expect someone to pay attention. If you carry a sign saying you want to kill Bush, how could you possibly expect that the CIA, FBI, pentegon not to spy on you? Give me some kind of reality check, perhaps I am screwed up.

Tell me the truth. I you had a neighbor who was telling people he was goning to kill you and your family, you wouldn't do some 'domestic spying' if you could? You wouldn't take preemptive action if you thought the threat credible? You wouldn't act even if law enforcement wouldn't? You would wait until after the fact before responding aggressively?
I'm pretty sure there are already laws against such things. If someone had a sign that made legitimate threats on someones life then they don't need to be wiretapped, they need to be arrested and charged with conspiracy to commit murder, and would be even pre-9/11. We don't need any more anti-terror legislation or pentagon watch groups that target political oppositon rather than actual terrorists.

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