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Old 01-19-2006, 04:51 AM   #10 (permalink)
pan6467
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Originally Posted by dksuddeth
the question we should all be asking ourselves is 'why should we trust them to get rid of their money pot?'
The question is how, though.

If we just vote everyone out (and that is great talk but rarely happens as most people don't want to believe "Their congressman is corrupt".

So, say we do elect a whole new Congress, the corruption will still be there. May take awhile for the corruption to reach as many as it does now but it will.

Ok, so then we try the non partisan oversight committee..... well who puts the people in power? It would definately become partisan and when you deal with people anyone and everyone has a price, at least this day and age.

So again, short term it may work, long term it won't.

Stricter rules? No, it'll just drive out the poor legal schlobs that don't have the money and drive the illegal guys deeper underground giving away more and more to the Congressmen.

An informed electorate? No, people will only be as informed and as believing as they want to be. Plus, the media has a price also, as they have interests in government, they want access for interviews and so on, all of which can be taken away. I'll give network XYZ all my interviews and commentaries and in turn they protect me, tell me if someone from another network is going to investigate. (Sounds paranoid, but I'm sure it happens.

It took a small not very famous newspaper (Toledo Blade) to expose the scandals in Ohio. And it took some serious pressure to get all the papers and news coverage of the scandals.... then somehow instead of reporting investigations and what was happening, we were thrown Taft and Noe and everything has gone silent. Even though they were saying how there were politicians in both parties involved and this could reach Federal Congressmen and yadda yadda yadda... It is a dead story now. Why is that?

So none of the above will work.

What is it going to take?

Government has always and will always have corrupt people because there will always be people that are corruptible, it's natural and prevelant throughout history.

What we need to do is reward those honest Congressmen, Pages, assistants and so on, that have the balls to come forth and say, "look this guy approached me and offered me this, that and the other thing. And I know several of my peers who have taken it from him."

Fuck party, fuck friendship, do what's right for the country. You see it, you know who and what is taking place, I'm sure in the circles it's no secret who is having Halliburton/GM/Merck/Exxon/BP/SmithKline/J&J/Medical Mutual/Anthem/the NRA/Pat Robertson and so on pay for their "research trips" to the Bahamas, or Asia or wherever.

But right now the atmosphere is so partisan and hateful and excuse oriented and blame everyone else that at this rate nothing ever will be done.

Look at how we had a SCJ go on hunting trips paid for by the VP, is that not unethical? OF COURSE IT IS!!!!! but the GOP blamed, deflected, made excuses and nothing was done. And that judge has pretty much ruled exactly how the WH has wanted him to and he has not once recused himself even in cases where the VP has interest.

10 years ago had Gore done that there would have been the Right screaming for the head of every Dem in Washington until the Justice stepped down. 20-30-40-50-100 years ago this would have been unheard of. because the people wouldn't have allowed it.

Today, the masses just do not seem to care anymore or have resigned themselves to the fact nothing will change...... thereby making the corruption so much more easier.

So until we truly decide as a people we want something done, nothing will be done. In fact they will get to the point where they will even flaunt it in our faces.

The government didn't go after the Mafia for years because the Mafia was evil, the Mafia was a research program for Congress and government to learn how to get away with things.
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