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Originally Posted by Ustwo
If you think marxist theory is valid then yes.
I think marxist theory is hogwash. You want your govenmernt to work best with human nature, not the other way around.
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Originally Posted by smooth
I'm not sure how to relate these sentences. Your last sentence looks like a non sequitor as it's not apparent to me how it supports the contention that marxism is hogwash. I also don't understand how "the other way around" would be: you don't want human nature to work best with your government? I don't see how this is false or undesirable.
In any case, it appears that marx' view on changing species is really not critical. There appears to be a mechanism for this in every discipline, even your medical discipline. So the notion that humans are changing over time as bunk is bizarre to me, other than you just wanting to dispute me. But the central tenet of my claim, the reason I made it, that humans change over time and we might just have a new one on our hands seems fairly safe from critique from you. I don't know how you'd go about it, but I'd like to see it.
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Umm lets go back to your post on this...
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Originally Posted by smooth
if you're going to go that route, keep in mind that a central assumption of Marxism is that humans do change over time, according to their material conditions.
I guess the short answer is that we may actually have new humans walking around now that we've shifted (are shifting) economies.
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You brought up marxist theory for some reason, and this is not a true evolution but more of a 'you are what you do, how you work' sort of thing (we had this discussion in philosophy at some point).
So you say that shifting economies will bring about new humans? I say hogwash. We are the same as we have been since before the last ice age. Our motivations, and our nature has not changed. Culture may change but only as it fits our predetermined nature.
So while in many, many, many generations we may 'change' into people who would naturally tend tword a communist system, we currently are not well designed for it.
As for human nature, no you don't set up a government and change human nature to work with it. That is what communism does and that is why it will always fail to achieve anything beyond brutal dicatorship. What you do is pick your government with what works best with human nature. Capitalism does this, and no one will claim its perfect, and its very unfair, but it works well and affords us the most freedom.