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Originally Posted by shakran
Uh, yeah. So have I. I need to have a little chat with you about that  Trying to edit a sweeps piece while "work is for another day" keeps running through your head sucks  |
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Originally Posted by minyn
posting questions to think about this- not devil's advocate, just trying to see what people think:
1. What does the Freedom Tower say to outsiders vs the new WTC?
2. What about the memorial for the families of those lost? does anyone care or is it what America likes?
3. compromise maybe?
4. who has and will have more say over this? the property owner, Trump, or the US. and why of course.
The Freedom Tower made me hesitant. neat idea, neat look, but its not what NY needs. it needs a compromise between somethign to stand tall as we have and something to be useful and not so flashy that we're screaming "fuck you world" cuz yea, we have a president who does a perfectly good job at that, no need for more...
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Anything we build there is going to a big fuck you to the extremists who applauded 9/11.
To answer the questions...
1. I don't think the world will care much what either of them say. The world, at large, will be apathetic except those that bother to learn the litany of symbolism built into the Freedom Tower, passing out in pain from the constant need to roll their eyes towards the back of their heads. The extremists, regardless of what's built, will just go indiscriminately crazy.
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Originally Posted by Charlatan
the main thing preventing the garden concept is that the value of the land is to high to just have a garden...
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That says it all. The only way the dead of September 11th are going to get a memorial is if the cost isn't too prohibitive. Talk about a big fuck you. Well, we're more than happy to build a 1,776 tall symbolic monster to exemplify the greatness that is America, but we'll be damned if we're going to give a prime piece of real estate up for a few thousand dead.
3. There should be no compromise. We herald the dead of every other war (wasn't this the beginnings of the War on Terror?) why do these civilians not deserve the right? Sure they didn't know it was coming, but neither did the souls who died at Pearl Harbor, yet there is a memorial dedicated to them in Hawaii, isn't there? They should build some sort of reminder. It doesn't have to be big and gaudy, small and tasteful will do just fine, but it shouldn't come down to a question of
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4. Who owns the property all the other war memorials sit on? I assume it's the federal government, right? Ultimately, the property owner is going to have the final say, but because of the unique circumstances surrounding the events of 9/11, I believe the federal government should be ceded a small bit for the building of a memorial.