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Old 05-18-2003, 10:56 PM   #9 (permalink)
Mael
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Originally posted by afroclassics


Think about this...

say the kurds of iraq who are pretty much a nation unto themselves where in good realarions with saddam but did not have land to call their own. THen a jewish state was formed on their land,without consent. and then their land kept getting smaller and smaller, with isreali tanks rolling through destroying your land. then you turn around and the land that was once yours is being turned into shopping malls. Everybody talks about jews did this and that with the land when the palestenians did nothing, but that shit costs money. and where did the jews get their money from... so your land is being taken more and more everyday. your mad. you have no weapons. so you throw rocks. you get shot. its hopeless til a few radical groups form that are willing to blow themselves up to save you. Would you be happy or sad, especially when your house got bull dozed, your neighbors family has been blown up because there was a supposed terrorist three blocks down, and your 14 year old son was shot in the head. i can say a lot more but damn...

seriously thing about what you would do

well, here's the thing... the analogy you made with the kurds, just doesn't really work. you're only talking about half of the situation. let me preface this by saying that i don't know the hard numbers, nor do i really care to take the time to look them up, so if someone else wants to, they can. when isreal became a state, some arabs did get displaced, but not all. so those who did end up leaving isreal to go live in the west bank. and from my understanding, the west bank and gaza, etc, did not belong to isreal at taht time. it became part of isreal after the 1967 war, a war in which the countries that controlled those area's participated in fought and lost in. as well as that, the palestinians decided to join in in those conflicts, and lost. i've read the history before to back that up, hopefully someone else will cite it or back it up, cause it's almost 3 am and i'm not in the mood to search.

now, my opinion is that the fact that isreal did not kick them off thier land or kill them all, i think they're being pretty nice.

also from what i understand, the violence that's been going on for the last 30 months or whatever it is started off with an attack on isreal. and then the back and forth goes on. and it seems to me, every time there's a lull in the fighting right now, it ends with a suicide bombing in tel aviv or on a bus.

i'm not going to really go into who i think is right or wrong, because frankly i don't care. i think that isreal has every right to do what they need to protect themselves. and in this age of terrorism which is supported by "borderless nations," they really can't be blamed for unfortunate collateral damage (unless intentional, which i don't think it is) when combating people who meet in the middle of neighborhoods, places were lots of people congregate.

and for the people who throw rocks at the isreali soldiers, that's just stupidity. hell, who in hell throws rocks at tanks or people with guns who have no problem considering you a threat? that's like me, a white man, going into the heart of harlem screaming racial slurs against black people. think i might get shot?

i might have more to say, but i'm kinda out of it.
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