View Single Post
Old 01-06-2005, 07:34 AM   #21 (permalink)
RangerDick
Loser
 
Location: manhattan
Quote:
Originally Posted by roachboy
the parallel to world war 2 is totally inappropriate. first because the war in iraq is not over. second because of everything else about the analogy.
I think the comparison is appropriate in the sense that many people viewed the situation in Europe immediately after WW2 as dismal and worse than prior to the start of the war.
We hear plenty of comparisons to Vietnam (quagmire!), are those inappropriate too?

Quote:
Originally Posted by roachboy
the analogy to a patient on the operating table at least has the virtue of being funny. for some reason, it made me think of the game "operation"
I love that game.

Quote:
Originally Posted by roachboy
i do not think that assessing the situation in iraq need come down to yet anther occasion for rehearsing your basic relation to the war itself....if you follow powerclowns argument out, it would mean that the view that the war is deepening follows from a hostile disposition toward the fact of the war rather than from looking at available information.
My post did not rest on my support (or lack thereof) for the war. Nowhere in my post did I express either sentiment.

Quote:
Originally Posted by roachboy
i might agree that some kind of democratization is a desirable goal for countries in the region in general terms (the states could use more democracy as well, for that matter), but nothing about the argument would lead one to conclude that the bush project is either legitimate in itself or that it advances that general cause.
I respectfully disagree. I think that the recent elections in Afghanistan, and the fact that Iraq will be holding elections this month is pretty clear evidence that the "bush project" does advance the cause of democracy.

Again, history will judge.
RangerDick is offline  
 

1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 50 51 52 53 54 55 56 57 58 59 60 61 62 63 64 65 66 67 68 69 70 71 72 73 74 75 76 77 78 79 80 81 82 83 84 85 86 87 88 89 90 91 92 93 94 95 96 97 98 99 100 101 102 103 104 105 106 107 108 109 110 111 112 113 114 115 116 117 118 119 120 121 122 123 124 125 126 127 128 129 130 131 132 133 134 135 136 137 138 139 140 141 142 143 144 145 146 147 148 149 150 151 152 153 154 155 156 157 158 159 160 161 162 163 164 165 166 167 168 169 170 171 172 173 174 175 176 177 178 179 180 181 182 183 184 185 186 187 188 189 190 191 192 193 194 195 196 197 198 199 200 201 202 203 204 205 206 207 208 209 210 211 212 213 214 215 216 217 218 219 220 221 222 223 224 225 226 227 228 229 230 231 232 233 234 235 236 237 238 239 240 241 242 243 244 245 246 247 248 249 250 251 252 253 254 255 256 257 258 259 260 261 262 263 264 265 266 267 268 269 270 271 272 273 274 275 276 277 278 279 280 281 282 283 284 285 286 287 288 289 290 291 292 293 294 295 296 297 298 299 300 301 302 303 304 305 306 307 308 309 310 311 312 313 314 315 316 317 318 319 320 321 322 323 324 325 326 327 328 329 330 331 332 333 334 335 336 337 338 339 340 341 342 343 344 345 346 347 348 349 350 351 352 353 354 355 356 357 358 359 360