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Originally Posted by powerclown
It's like asking whether a 2 year old boy is going to grow up to be a success.
Too early to tell.
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Nonsense. When is the last 40 year war fought by the U.S.? (Is 40 years enough time to judge the successes or failures of a human being?) Certainly not anything in modern times. Wars are not judged by how old they are on a human lifetime scale.
There are a number of ways of looking at this question:
1- Before the war, the measure of success was speed and Iraqi's giving us flowers. If you discount the war since post-fall of Baghdad, speed was successful (but why you would discount the war after one specific battle is beyond me). The flowers concept was a complete failure.
2- The "sovereignty" hand over. It happened. So in that sense it is a success. What it produced is essentially nothing different than what was before. So in that sense it was a failure. If counting the number of dead American's since the hand over to the artificial sovereignty, we have seen the body count increase. So in that sense it was a failure.
The future is obviously unknowable. So if that is what you were getting at, clearly you are stating the obvious. But your implication that not enough time has passed to judge the failures and successes of this war and specifically your time comparison to the duration of life necessary to judge the success or failure of a human being, to that I say nonsense.