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10-21-2004, 01:34 PM

Damn - I detect a certain trolly element from you Coach, I mean, if you don't believe in the first place, why post the question? However, I have taken the bait, so here goes...

First of all, there is no heaven - at least not in the big white gated place full of angels. Jesus knew this, which is why he kept talking about a kingdom of "Heaven On Earth". Christians, by behaving pleasantly towards one another, are able to (as are all people and religions) create a real Heaven On Earth. This truth (discovered by various religious figures around the world) has brought civilisation to the human race.

Someone who gives of themselves, looses their ego and accepts life as it is, can enjoy every aspect of the world and grow themselves into a fulfilled, happy and noble person. This is what Christianity is really about, and it is why it still remains a powerfull force today. It is a practical, civilising force. Just don't get confused between the wisdom of Christianity and all the old mumbo-jumbo that's been attached (by Kings and Romans) to make it fit in with the mysticism, polytheism and paganism of conquered barbarians, and unruly mobs.

Yes, much of it is bollocks, but shouldn't it be obvious to anyone with any intelligence which bits!

10-21-2004, 01:34 PM	#14 (permalink)
zen_tom Guest	Damn - I detect a certain trolly element from you Coach, I mean, if you don't believe in the first place, why post the question? However, I have taken the bait, so here goes... First of all, there is no heaven - at least not in the big white gated place full of angels. Jesus knew this, which is why he kept talking about a kingdom of "Heaven On Earth". Christians, by behaving pleasantly towards one another, are able to (as are all people and religions) create a real Heaven On Earth. This truth (discovered by various religious figures around the world) has brought civilisation to the human race. Someone who gives of themselves, looses their ego and accepts life as it is, can enjoy every aspect of the world and grow themselves into a fulfilled, happy and noble person. This is what Christianity is really about, and it is why it still remains a powerfull force today. It is a practical, civilising force. Just don't get confused between the wisdom of Christianity and all the old mumbo-jumbo that's been attached (by Kings and Romans) to make it fit in with the mysticism, polytheism and paganism of conquered barbarians, and unruly mobs. Yes, much of it is bollocks, but shouldn't it be obvious to anyone with any intelligence which bits! Last edited by zen_tom; 10-21-2004 at 02:25 PM..