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Originally Posted by OpieCunningham
I suppose I could just say, Israel is, at least, 50% to blame.
But the real issue is that the U.S. gov't does not handle the situation that way. On the contrary, Israel can do almost no wrong in the eyes of the U.S. gov't - and this is not a new policy, though it has been amplified since 9-11.
Israel has never agreed to the U.N. mandates which brought them into existence. On the contrary, they have consistently pushed the bar in taking from the Palestinians (I call them Palestinians because before Israel came into existence, the area, controlled by Britain, was referred to as Palestine) while turning around and offering back a pitance of whatever they have taken and demanding the Palestinians acquiesce. They then call this "negotiation" and "compromise" and the U.S. gov't (and to a large part, the media) certify it as such. And when partial representatives of the Palestinians balk or fail to comply with these "compromises", they are considered hard-headed and unwilling to achieve peace.
The simple reality is, Israel's tactics are ones of major aggression.
And to top it off, they have nukes. Which the U.S. gov't turns a blind-eye towards. It's borderline comical that the U.S. pretends to have a nuclear non-proliferation policy while doing nothing to remove them from Israel's hands. Israel has absolutely no need for nukes - the allied status with the U.S., and its' own arsenal is enough. The last thing this world needs is nukes in the control of Iran - and the first step towards preventing them from attaining them is to remove them from Israel's control. Anything less and Iran is stuck in a Cold War scenario of defense.
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Sir have you ever really read up on the history of the Menidat Y'sreal? In their short existence, 55 +/- years, they have been attacked 3 times by foreign invading armies, often times by as many as 8 Arab countries. They were a major player in the cold war, having read up on the cold war middle east you would know that. Israel has historically only taken gains after aggression, and constantly used said gains to broker peace with said aggresive Arab neighbors.
Palestine may historically have been the name of the territory occupied by Britain, but their is no Palestinian culture, their is no Palestinian people (historically). Palestine never had any land, having never truly been a nation (even if you disagree with Israel, we all know that the Palestinian people exist), legally they were never a true nation onto their own, historically being under control of Jordan (West Bank) and Gaza (Egypt). Has it turns out today those are the only two Arab Nations Israel has a peace treaty with, and respectively the Palestinian territories are under the control of the respective nations, but then you have the occupation which is a whole nother can of worms.
Lastly your who speel on Israel's nukes is complete and utter bullshit, it's garbage. Israel has not signed the Nuclear Proliferation treaty, Iran has, don't come here talking that nonsense. Any well informed person knows the UN only has power in respect to concessions of sovereignity, Israel has never afforded it to the UN, good for them. It's all fine and good for us to talk about here, but I suspect if we were living in a country were we have been involved in 5 armed cross-border conflicts in 50 years, life and politics would be different and a little more blurred.
God bless both the palestinian and Israeli people.