big_bubba

Hey irseg, to have a muscle car with 150HP is a joke--you'd have to have a 70s emissions choked GM/Ford/Mopar small block....even a freaking late '60s 225 cu. in. mopar slant six is almost at 150. And they get a lot better than 12mpg.

I sure as hell won't get much better than 12mpg when my car is done (lights, glass, etc and then go for a safety so I can get plates and drive it legally)---but find me a ricer that's only got as much as I have in my car ($3400CDN including buying it) that can beat my 300hp, 400ft-lb honda-crushing V8 and I'll lick the bottoms fo your feet.

Pain Train is right--Muscle will always win. If I cared about fuel economy, I would've bought a late model 4cyl FWD 90HP POS. If I cared about handling, I would've bought something that's light in the front end with modern suspension.

On a different note--I'm not saying this because I hate imports, even though I'm kind of biased against them. Hell I'd take a Mazda RX8, Nissan Altima, Infinity G35 etc... they're all very sweet cars that I'll likely never be priveledged to afford.

"I'd say the ratio of idiot import drivers to idiot domestic drivers is about 50/50. The domestic drivers just aren't as noticible. . .until they open their mouth."

I agree about the ratios. I dunno though..domestics are pretty noticable when they pop open the exhaust cutouts and you hear a big block v8 with open headers at five grand as a shiny noisy blur zips past you....whether it be at the strip or on the street.

Face it--street racing is a problem btu it's not going to go away. I'm not saying I'm perfect but any street racing I've done-and it's the same for most people I know that are into muscle-isn't as dangerous as it's cracked up to be. You smoke el honda off the line, smoke 'em into second gear, back off at about 20 over the speed limit, and 30 seconds later he zips by at 160 and says he beat you. If I had a nickel for every time I've seen THAT happen......

Freaking dumbasses that do that watched fast and the furious too many times. Hey guys---a drag race is traditionally supposed to be a QUARTER MILE. Not a quarter of the way across the city. I'm not saying only ricers do it, but it seems that every time I see it it's one of the torqueless plastic fwd cars doing it. Take a phone pole at a buck twenty, buddy. See how...oh...ALIVE you are afterwards.

Street racing is a problem but not as serious as is implied in the media. Race on non-busy streets with no pedestrians around and don't go crazy and you'll be just fine.

Shakran, I don't mean to sound like I was picking on you...I know you said something about not being a ricer or whatever..I'm talking about the guys with the paint that changes colors from different angles that have the 7" exhaust tips and the 20" rims that are worth more than the car on a '95 civic 4-door. Face it--they weren't meant to be performance cars.