Why attack Sikhs?

It looks like we're running the risk of losing focus here. Are you suggesting that liberal America has the same problems with racism generally and Muslims specifically as conservatives? With xenophobia? With the Other?

Why bring this up?

Are there liberal racists? Against Muslims? Probably. But is it a systemic problem such as that among the right wing? Probably not.

Your question seems like a barbed question, because that's not what roachboy is implying. You were criticizing him for generalizations, but now you're being presumptive.

I don't think it makes sense to talk about anarchist tendencies or ecoterrorism or anti-capitalism in a thread on this topic. Do you?

Are all conservatives racists? No, that's not what's being argued. Do conservatives have an exclusive on hatred? Of course not. That's not what is being argued.

 

Really? The militia set went out and bought all those guns? ALL those militia sets? Seems obtuse instead of obvious. I mean, really, sounds more of the fear and consternation tactics for your own beliefs that you're blaming the conservatives for. So everyone else is paranoid and fed conspiracy theory but you are devoid and incapable of it.

rise in gun sales tend to follow trends like anything where people believe that their rights or ability to purchase will be severely curtailed. This same thing happened in California before the ban on assault rifles, thank goodness at the time I had gotten mine before the law went into effect.
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No, I'm pointing out that he is painting a broad stroke on ALL conservatives, that's how I understood his last posts I've responded to.

 

He did clarify, making the distinction that he's referring to the impact of neofascism as an outcome of right-wing hegemony (at the expense, in my own view, of moderates, centrists, and liberalism). He's not referring to conservatives as a group of individuals; he's referring to the conservatism as it operates politically in the U.S. There is a difference. Remember, roachboy has admitted to having conservative acquaintances, and even having shared beverages with them (gasp!). I don't think he'd hang out with neofascists. I doubt he'd make such a simplistic argument as conservative = neofascist.

Of course, I don't want to put words in his mouth (or, as it happens, in his TFP box). But that's how I see it.

 

Oh I see. I can't just want to protect myself from nutjobs like the one in Aurora, VA, and Norway. Strange how binary it is for you.
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note at the expense... that's the broad brush.

 

I don't know, maybe because laws tend to be passed in response to most recent violence. Laws and changes happen usually AFTER someone dies, not before.

I'm trying to understand why someone wants to remove rights from people as a reaction to situations.

 

So when I criticize actions of the U.S. or the actions of corporations, you see that as a problem too? Does that also offend you? You are, after all, an American. You may also work for a corporation, for all I know.

 

right, we tried having a discussion making Delancey Street safer, this is where the Williamsburg Bridge enters Manhattan. For years people have been saying that it is unsafe to cross there because there is a high rate of speed that cars traverse that road. You know when they finally did something? About 6 months ago. Why? Because a 6 year old died.

After that 6 year old died they got that shit into gear because what a tragedy! A child died, never mine the adults that died at the same intersection. Think of the children!

Knee jerk reactions to creating laws. That's how it's been. It isn't a proactive response, it never is. Please point out laws that are made BEFORE there is an issue. Did they make laws to protect people's money from predatory lending before the lending was predatory?

 

Really? You mean to say the put COPS out there BEFORE there was crimes? No it was in RESPONSE to the crimes that were being committed.

Right you don't get assign more cops to where there are no crimes.

Notice, support more local police, local programs targeted to high crime communities.