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Politics Who's Gonna Win?

Discussion in 'Tilted Philosophy, Politics, and Economics' started by issmmm, Sep 25, 2011.

  1. ASU2003

    ASU2003 Very Tilted

    Location:
    Where ever I roam
    I think Romney still has the best shot, but who will he pick as a VP? Will it be Palin again? Santorum or Paul? He needs to pick someone that would bring the GOP factions back together.

    Romney will still have a very tough time winning in the general election.
     
  2. Baraka_Guru

    Baraka_Guru Möderätor Staff Member

    Location:
    Toronto
    Heh, and here I thought Romney was the most "presidential" of the bunch. Have a look at his snippy response to a question about the 99% from the perspective of the 1%: http://bcove.me/fix5t73j

    It seems to be that he got all defensive. However, the real issue is that he seems to be an apologist for the 1%, and he does so by spouting some rather clumsy fallacies.

    I've said before that I think Romney is the Republicans' best shot at winning. He really should win the nomination. After seeing this and a few other things, however, it doesn't really matter who wins. The presidential debates are going to be a circus.
     
  3. Derwood

    Derwood Slightly Tilted

    Location:
    Columbus, OH
    My guess is Romney's VP will be someone not currently in the race
     
  4. issmmm

    issmmm Getting Tilted

    You still have to hand it to Newt and/or his handlers in how they dealt with it garnering a standing ovation, by turning the whole thing on the media.

    How dare ABC air it a couple days from the primary

    How dare CNN open with it

    The ex wife of a Presidential candidate (who new there was such a thing?) with something explosive to say concerning him, fidelity, and his moral abilities, ask for/submits to air time...who's gonna say no?

    And while it is gottcha jornalism, can you imagine any news organization ignoring something like that?

    But the appause was thunderous. Were they applauding the attack on the media alone, or his right to privacy, or what?
     
  5. bobGandalf

    bobGandalf Vertical

    Location:
    United States
    Geez, I'm not sure.....that Gingrich is pretty slippery. Every time I think he is history, he pops up again.

    I was sick to my stomach the other night watching the audience give him a standing O after his foodstamp comments / counter-comments.
     
  6. ralphie250

    ralphie250 Fully Erect

    Location:
    At work..
    Like issmmm said, I just can't believe that abc and cnn aired it when they did. You knew that she wasn't going to say that he was a stand up guy and we should vote for him. (Isn't that what ex's do). I don't remember where I herd it k think it was newt that said the media is part of the reason that REAL candidates don't run. Who knows who would run and win.
     
  7. Baraka_Guru

    Baraka_Guru Möderätor Staff Member

    Location:
    Toronto
    That damn librul media. It's ruining the country!
     
  8. samcol

    samcol Getting Tilted

    Location:
    indiana
    i dont think it was an appropriate question, but it really does demonstrate what a sleazeball gingrich is. that fact that he divorced his last wife who had cancer makes this 2nd ex wives story sound pretty convincing.
     
  9. issmmm

    issmmm Getting Tilted

    Why not?
    Like I said it was Gottcha jornalism to be sure. But the fact is the subject was out there.
    Would you as a moderator ignored such an acusation? Would you as a news organization not grant airtime?
    In John King's position, I would have answered back.

    the only questions I would find inappropiate in a Presidential debate are those that have no foundation, this one did
     
  10. ralphie250

    ralphie250 Fully Erect

    Location:
    At work..
    im not going to say that it was an inappropriate question, but i think it shouldnt have been the first thing out of the moderators mouth. maybe after 10 minutes or so
     
  11. redux

    redux Very Tilted

    Location:
    Foggy Bottom
    A guy who campaigns on family values and the immorality of the left should be prepared to address his own family values and immorality right at the top.
     
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  12. ASU2003

    ASU2003 Very Tilted

    Location:
    Where ever I roam
    The problem is that he just blamed someone else in a very well rehearsed and prepared statement. Yet, where was he in 1996-98 when Clinton was going through the same thing with the media? Yeah, he was one of the major players trying to impeach Clinton... Hypocrite with a capital H.
     
  13. Bodkin van Horn

    Bodkin van Horn One of the Four Horsewomyn of the Fempocalypse

    I'm all for Gingrich making this race last as long as possible.
     
  14. issmmm

    issmmm Getting Tilted

    Not a conspirorist but IS there a Repbulican that could have been a legitamate candidate or are these guys trying to throw the election?

    Santorum
    the Gays hate him. The people who care for the Gays hate him
    Gingrich
    Freakishly amoral preaching the Gospel
    Romney
    Out of touch rich guy
    Ron Paul
    IS Ron Paul

    In an era when half of America is huting in some way, these guys are telling us that they will make it easier for their rich buddies and MAYBE their rich buddies will make it better (marginally) for us. they tell us that while we are unemployed that thehealth insurance that will cover us and is just around the corner will be eliminated if we put them in office. These hawks say that security wise they would pull us out of the countries we are in militarily and protect our shores. To me that sounds like running in the house and poking your gun out the window.

    seriously, I'm not saying Obama is unbeatable. I'm saying it was a Repulican Congress and President that snatched us out the prosperity (albeit an illusory proserity) of the Clintion years and cast us into two wars. Do they really think we the unwashed have forgotten all that? Do they think that we've forgotten that in the first weeks of his administration it was exposed that their adjenda wasn't to fight tooth and nail for what they beleived in but to make him a one term President and in spite of the fact that they were exposed continued to work in that vein.

    The Republican brand is tainted. And to clean up that taint they send in the clowns, including those who've bowed out. Isn't there a Rpublican out there who has voted his conscience, not been a womanizer? There has to be someone on the national stage, or even on the periphery of the national stage who's a stand up guy or girl with the intelligence and moral fortitude to run. Why didn't they run that guy/girl?
     
  15. Strange Famous

    Strange Famous it depends on who is looking...

    Location:
    Ipswich, UK
    The only person who can win the Rep nomination is Romney

    I wouldnt imagine Obama is scared of him, but he would LOVE to be going against Paul or Gingrich instead (although neither are real presidential candidates... Gingrich is just trying to find an angle to make more dough, and Paul has just been spinning this same "do as you will" yarn for decades.

    (in a way I kind of admire Ron Paul. In as much as I believe that most of what he stands for is despicable and destructive, at least the guy has the courage to stand up and what he really thinks. And not just now, for the last 20 years.)

    _

    I also dont think a man's religion should stand against him if it doesnt effect how you do your job, and being a mormon isnt the same as being a scientologist, but I think it will get really rough on Romney as he fights past the Christian Right to get the Rep nomination.
     
  16. Derwood

    Derwood Slightly Tilted

    Location:
    Columbus, OH
    Gingrich wins big in South Carolina.

    I weep for America
     
  17. Baraka_Guru

    Baraka_Guru Möderätor Staff Member

    Location:
    Toronto
    It must have been Chuck Norris's endorsement.

    Yet, Gingrich still has barely half the total delegates as front runner Romney.

    Overall: Republicans seem pretty much all over the place with their selecting a leader. Wow.
     
  18. roachboy

    roachboy Very Tilted

    gingrich. what a fucking nimrod. santorum. another fucking nimrod. and so forth. personally, i'm more disgusted with the corporate media coverage of the rituals involving these buffoons as if it, and they, are serious. it appears that there is no way for the machinery to acknowledge structural problems or the delegitimation of an ideology. the wheel turn as if it was attached to a functional machine because its a wheel and that's what wheels do.
     
  19. Derwood

    Derwood Slightly Tilted

    Location:
    Columbus, OH
    The media coverage should be no surprise. 40 years ago, the media would be ripping the GOP to shreds for it's idiocy, but the right has expertly framed themselves as victims of the "Lamestream Soros-controlled drive-by media", and as such, no major outlets dare criticize anymore (lest they be painted as "Obama propagandists".
     
  20. Strange Famous

    Strange Famous it depends on who is looking...

    Location:
    Ipswich, UK
    Thats pretty strange. Even if you take no account at all on what he believes, my understanding is he was fined 300,000 for taxation fraud in the early 90's? How can people vote for someone with fraud convictions?

    I guess Obama is really hoping one of the more out there candidates can somehow beat Romney.

    I have to admit being very very disappointed in Obama, but he is still the lesser of the available evils as far as I can see.