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Politics What is happening????

Discussion in 'Tilted Philosophy, Politics, and Economics' started by pan6467, Apr 23, 2012.

  1. Tully Mars

    Tully Mars Very Tilted

    Location:
    Yucatan, Mexico
    The price of oil is hurting Mexico as well. It was one of the last things the country could count on. The tourism business, esp. on the west coast took hit after hit for years due to gang violence and drug trafficking. Mexico was taken off of the CIA's list of "third world" nations in the 80's I think. Many states are going backwards. I travel through some states now with much more caution and others I simply fly over. Not worth the risk.
     
  2. ASU2003

    ASU2003 Very Tilted

    Location:
    Where ever I roam
    I was wondering when we were going to have an oil thread.

    Saudi Arabia is trying to screw over ISIS to prevent them from overtaking the Kingdom. The US wants to hurt Russia financially. The environmentalists want to see the frackers and tar sands go bankrupt so they are pushing divestment and to not speculate on oil. Amazing what a 2% drop in demand has caused.

    Good times.
     
  3. Chris Noyb

    Chris Noyb Get in, buckle up, hang on, & be quiet.

    Location:
    Large City, TX
    When oh when are we going to take solar energy seriously?
     
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  4. ASU2003

    ASU2003 Very Tilted

    Location:
    Where ever I roam
    I made 2120 kWh of solar power last year and used 1710 kWh. In Ohio. If my home was better designed, I could make even more with my 8 panels. Which would be easy and cheap if you were designing a new house to include, or had some land to mount them on..
     
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  5. rogue49

    rogue49 Tech Kung Fu Artist Staff Member

    Location:
    Baltimore/DC

    Actually, it's going to become significant...some of the leaps of tech and quality have made a big difference.
    Now you can get more energy for less cost than it used to.
    There will be a slow conversion.
    However, I doubt it will be used for vehicles anytime soon, it will be more likely for solar farms (if they can figure out how not to fry birds in mid-flight...)
    and homes and business buildings.
    So stationary, not mobile.

    For mobile, you'd have to do something that would make it look cool.
    People need to have their cars & trucks be cool. (for the most part)
    Humans are humans.
     
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  6. Chris Noyb

    Chris Noyb Get in, buckle up, hang on, & be quiet.

    Location:
    Large City, TX
    I was thinking buildings and homes, and mass produced energy in particular, more than vehicles. I do like the fact that I'm seeing more & more hybrid/flexfuel vehicles on the road. If I needed to replace one of our vehicles, and money wasn't an issue, it would definately be a hybrid.
     
  7. rogue49

    rogue49 Tech Kung Fu Artist Staff Member

    Location:
    Baltimore/DC

    Actually hybrids have come down significantly, they are now a "known evil" and commodity.
    And fully electric are also coming into play...and are reasonable, "in target range".
    You've got Tesla to thank for that, they've started making it sexy. (including increasing the range to 400 MI)

    And...I'm seeing electric charging post being put up in various areas around here. (Baltimore/DC)
    Some at the train stations parking lots, even at a few popular malls.
    It's coming, bit by bit.

    But I'm sure the transition to "horseless carriages" way back when was slower than we expected or remember.
    I don't think the car really got into play until the 40's and 50's and when the US highway system was built. Europe took even longer converting.
    Ubiquitous is a long-term goal.
     
  8. redravin

    redravin Cynical Optimist Donor

    Location:
    North
  9. rogue49

    rogue49 Tech Kung Fu Artist Staff Member

    Location:
    Baltimore/DC
  10. Chris Noyb

    Chris Noyb Get in, buckle up, hang on, & be quiet.

    Location:
    Large City, TX
    At one time the governor of OK stopped state vehicle inspections because the program cost the state too much money. I sincerely hope that someone has since reinstated the inspections. I don't know because now that my mother no longers lives there, and most of my older relatives have passed away, I haven't been back there in a few years.
     
  11. redux

    redux Very Tilted

    Location:
    Foggy Bottom
  12. rogue49

    rogue49 Tech Kung Fu Artist Staff Member

    Location:
    Baltimore/DC
    This will affect the ACA, Medicare and Mediaid...any medical compensation from the federal govt.
    Doctors' Pay Will Be Linked to Quality in Historic U.S. Overhaul of Medical Billing

    I don't think there will be as much of a direct change as you may think,
    but this may help start setting a new standard and mindset on how medical billing and activities are done.

    There will be more of a discouragement to do excessive or unnecessary procedures.
    It's not just a "gimme".

    Patients will be more considered someone to be cared for...not as much as an income resource.

    The question is...what is the standard? or determination?

    And yes, this will require more regulation...but then again, you need rules in Football too.
    Both to make sure everything is fair...and no one gets injured.

    Wish you didn't have to...but those who abuse or push the influence they have over people being cared for have made it so.
    This will also give medical staff an excuse to push back on those patients who push for unneeded treatment and drugs too.
     
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  13. rogue49

    rogue49 Tech Kung Fu Artist Staff Member

    Location:
    Baltimore/DC
    Same circus, different theme :rolleyes:

     
  14. redravin

    redravin Cynical Optimist Donor

    Location:
    North
    I am consistently amazed at how legislators can come up with moronic bills like this.
    So now teachers aren't allowed to discuss the governments that influenced the framers of the Constitution or all the different types of governments that were springing up at the time?
    I have a t-shirt that says People who can teach, People who can't make laws about teaching.
    This pretty much proves it.

    Proposed W.Va Law Would Fine Educators For Teaching About Socialism Before American History

     
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  15. Chris Noyb

    Chris Noyb Get in, buckle up, hang on, & be quiet.

    Location:
    Large City, TX
    So teachers in WV wouldn't be able to teach the popularity of socialism in the '20s & '30s in response to Industrilization, and the Great Depression? Why the Labor Movement was violently opposed by the industrial giants? How membership in socialist parties, which was indeed quite common at one time and allowed under the US constitution, came back to cripple many good people during McCarthyism and the HCUA?

    The history that I learned in public schools was very much sanitized. The few teachers who would actually answer questions that challenged the text books had to do so very carefully. It wasn't until college that I learned about the many social issues and the disturbing responses that are part of US history. Fortunately my mother, despite her lack of formal education, kept up with current affairs and discussed them openly.
     
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  16. redux

    redux Very Tilted

    Location:
    Foggy Bottom
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  17. omega

    omega Very Tilted

    Going back to solar power, what convinced me that it had come of age was when I saw the top of a Walmart and it was covered in solar panels. If Walmart installed panels then you know it was fiscally sound. They only do stuff to protect their bottom line.
     
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  18. rogue49

    rogue49 Tech Kung Fu Artist Staff Member

    Location:
    Baltimore/DC
    Two problems...

    1. Dept. of Defense can't even do an audit of itself...even by its own deadline.
    Every other Dept. in the US has done this.

    2. There is an inherent conflict of interest now in the status quo.
    From the Congressional side, keeping the money flowing home, much less lobbyists influencing and "bribing" them to encourage spending.
    From the President, playing "whack-a-mole" globally, as everyone expects the US to get involved, even if they don't want to.
    From the Military themselves, keeping their territories, projects and budgets up...to prove their own existence and influence.

    In a way, I like their stupidity of the Sequester.
    It forces their hand when they're not willing or able to do so themselves.
    Sure it hurts and it's sloppy...but it needs to be done anyway.

    We should be able to support a similar scale military at half the budget.
    Even if we don't need that scale...and that's a whole other argument. (ex. we don't need prep to fight a two front war like WWII anymore)

    But it comes down to the pork, for the most part.
     
  19. Baraka_Guru

    Baraka_Guru Möderätor Staff Member

    Location:
    Toronto
    The American DOD runs the single largest socialist program in the world. It's difficult to rein something like that in.
     
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  20. rogue49

    rogue49 Tech Kung Fu Artist Staff Member

    Location:
    Baltimore/DC

    I don't know if I'd call it a Socialist program...that's a broad definition and what hyperbolic pundits like to call anything government related. (not you in this group., BTW)
    Defense & Police are inherent parts of a government's responsibility...no matter its type. And if it doesn't, then you get chaos and others taking your land and people.
    But that's a debate for another time.

    But along the lines of waste and inefficiency...and perhaps some lack of accountability.
    The Department of Homeland Security is a total disaster. It's time to abolish it.

    Agreed.
    It is redundant and mismanaged...and Congress is starting to use it as another target.
    Put the original depts back to where they were before.

    The terrorists and hackers can fight those with a better focus and funding.
    Treasury won't get defunded...hell, it pays for itself...and Defense certainly won't, as noted above.
    Why give them another handball??? :rolleyes:

    Except perhaps Immigration should go under Justice, instead of Customs...which is more fiscal related.

    BTW, @Baraka_Guru ...how does Canada handle this??