Trayvon Martin.

Most of us don't believe that O has a "secret plan" to destroy the 2nd. However, he has stated point blank he doesn't like guns. When someone who doesn't like guns get's a position of power, it makes those of us that do like them weary. While O has not passed any restrictive laws on the fire arms front, the people he has decided to appoint to key positions like Kagan and Holder are worrying to those of us who think the 2nd needs protecting.

 

What? Why are you continuing to twist this? In 2010, with the House majority in question, the NRA endorsed 58 Democrats!

Pro-gun Democrats win endorsements from NRA

You are in some kind of echo chamber, the US is mostly a pro-gun ownership country.
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Obama could not win re-election if he honestly ran on his gun ownership views - we both know that, why the pretense?

 

There are a lot of ways Obama has set the stage for widespread infringement of individual liberties that 2nd amendment folks seem completely indifferent to. What good is an assault rifle going to do when the president can blow up your whole block with a targeted drone strike (provided he goes through the 'due process' of having a secret lawyer write a secret memo saying it's okay).

If the NRA were serious about that shit, they'd be advocating for the right to bear AA guns.

I'm going to withhold any further judgment about the Zimmerman case until the trial is over. After that, I'm probably just going to continue weeping for humanity in between bouts of furious masturbation and furious social media consumption.

 

You are much nicer than I am. The NRA knows the importance of diligence, I am thankful they monitor political activities the way they do. Holding politicians accountable is the only way to guarantee gun ownership rights. Anti-gun ownership people would love to believe any one who supports gun ownership is a nut.

 

This. I've never wanted to party with a cynical ginger more than right now.

 

A majority of Americans think gun laws should be more strict.

A majority of Americans support an assault weapon ban.

A majority of Americans share Obama's positions on these issues.

SO how do you figure he could not win if he runs on these views?

 

I could probably fit you somewhere in between bouts of furious masturbation.

 

Be clear, do you believe the NRA is partisan, a Republican Party front organization, or however you would state it?

 

A majority of Americans supported the war in Iraq, too.

Since this is a comprehensive thread, let's drag that in.

You know what America is actually worried about?

The economy.

 

So do I.

I don't support a ban but I do support stricter controls.

I think most NRA members are closely aligned as I stated, so what?

What are his other views? Why did you stop with the above? Like I wrote previously, we are adults here. Don't try to sell me a fantasy - we know what is real and what is not.

 

Careful who you party with in VA.

Virginia man accidentally shoots himself, wife while at gun safety class.

 

I will have you know I only party with people that shoot people with a different skin color. And children.

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The fun thing about being a responsible gun owner is how you bring out total tantrums from obese whiny pothead lefties with soul patch beards drinking Diet Dr. Pepper who assume that you sit on your porch and throw buckshot at the neighbor's kids. What I do with firearms is basically a more noisy version of golf. I take the ball and put it in the hole at long range. I don't go out on a Saturday night strapped and looking for minorities.

/did I get enough stereotypes in there?

 

He signed two bills expanding gun rights -- one allowing people to take guns on Amtrak trains and another allowing guns to be taken into national parks.

Real bills, not fantasy bills.
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That sums it up for me, as well.

 

The NRA is a common ally of politicians who share the NRA views on gun ownership. That is clear.
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Please, please be consistent. Now you want me to believe Obama is pro-gun ownership?

Again, we are adults. When a President signs a bill, he/she may do it for many reasons, including the bill including provisions he/she would not ordinarily support. You are in a forum with people who understand how government works. Let's take this discourse to a higher level. Weak talking points are not enough.

 

You asked for more on Obama's position and I provided it.

Try not to twist what I post.

I think it is clear that Obama's positions on more strict gun laws and ban on assault weapons, along with the expanded gun rights provided in the above, are mainstream positions and not a secret massive conspiracy to destroy the Second Amendment.

I provide facts and you continue with weak (bullshit) talking points.
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Ace, more facts for you.

In the Senate, Obama voted with the Republicans on an amendment to prohibit the confiscation of a firearm during an emergency or major disaster.

No, I dont think that makes him pro-gun ownership, but the suggestion that he is a gun control extremist that the NRA (and evidently you as well) want to portray him is not supported by the facts.