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Politics The Probe

Discussion in 'Tilted Philosophy, Politics, and Economics' started by rogue49, Oct 29, 2017.

  1. rogue49

    rogue49 Tech Kung Fu Artist Staff Member

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    Here’s What Trump’s ‘Nuclear Documents’ Could Be — WIRED

    FYI
    In case you want to know what kind of secret was confiscated from T tee teepee.
    “Above Top Secret”

    Just learned a new term, the Five Keys
    An intelligence alliance with US, UK, Canada, Australia and New Zealand (all primary English speaking countries)

    But I’m familiar with all the things, having worked in the Fed Govt as a contractor. It’s really quiet a bit to sort out.

    This is NOT looking good for T
    Even though Mar-a-lago WAS a Yankee White joint while T was in office.
    Hasn’t been since.

    If I recall, the FBI pulled another 15 boxes out this time, in addition to what they previously pulled out.

    And the whole Obama excuse from T if BS
    Obama was digitizing docs for his presidential library. AND he got permission from the owner, the National Archives AND he had them briefly AND he handled them accordingly to Archive rules.
    ALSO the docs weren’t certainly Nuclear Documents “Above Top Secret”

    It’s just surreal what T thinks he can get away with.

    …oh yeah, and the GOP “might” think having that kind of info is a problem. :rolleyes:

    GOP contorts itself in defense of Trump as new FBI search details emerge — POLITICO
     
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  2. Chris Noyb

    Chris Noyb Get in, buckle up, hang on, & be quiet. Donor

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    NPD Trump is not known for
    his intellect or his attention span.
    What was he doing with
    such secret documents???
    I doubt that he was
    reading them.

    It makes no sense to me.
    Other than NPD Trump
    being his petulant self
    just because he could.
     
  3. rogue49

    rogue49 Tech Kung Fu Artist Staff Member

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    FBI search warrant shows Trump under investigation for potential obstruction of justice, Espionage Act violations

    I can't keep up...nor am I going to try.
    The flood gates have opened.
    The levee broken.

    The hurricane of BS and corruption has finally pushed it over.
    My only question is...what kept ya??? :rolleyes:

    Make me wonder how we let this kind of crap go on so long.
    Much less people who actually support it. :confused::oops::eek::mad:

    Sit back and secure yourself, it's going to get real on the roller coaster.
    May make the ride we've been on in the past years since 2015, when T announced his campaign, seem smoother. :(
    The hornets nest has been busted open.
    And other metaphors...
     
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  4. Chris Noyb

    Chris Noyb Get in, buckle up, hang on, & be quiet. Donor

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    At one time there were questions regarding what classified info NPD Trump (might have :rolleyes:) shared with Counselori Giuliani. Hopefully we'll get some answers.
     
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  5. rogue49

    rogue49 Tech Kung Fu Artist Staff Member

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    Hmm, gives a whole new angle to "The Probe"... :eek::D
    [​IMG]
     
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  6. rogue49

    rogue49 Tech Kung Fu Artist Staff Member

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    FBI ‘gradually learned’ the extent of classified information taken to Mar-a-Lago, Dilanian reports — NBC News

    So…THIS is the essence of all of these probes
    How the government works
    And how ponderous and chaotic finding out information and what happened
    AND it doesn’t help having others hiding, ignoring, repressing…or just being skeptical or biased giving it out.
    Humans being human…

    The Mueller report (redacted by T’s administration)
    The this report, that report, this investigation or others
    Now this one, which is overlapping other investigations

    You wonder how LONG it’s gonna to be before they get ALL the information of what happened
    Much less the damage and consequences and implications of it all.
    From the start of the end of his term to now
    Much less what happened DURING his term
    Or even when he first announced his first campaign.

    It’s profound to think about.
     
  7. Chris Noyb

    Chris Noyb Get in, buckle up, hang on, & be quiet. Donor

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    History will eventually show NPD Trump was an incompetent POTUS concerned only about being "King" and his legacy.

    The problem is NPD Trump will die believing his own delusions; even if he winds up in prison he'll believe he was persecuted.

    How will history judge the Republican party and party leaders?

    .......
    I still want to know: What was he doing with the documents?
     
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  8. rogue49

    rogue49 Tech Kung Fu Artist Staff Member

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    They're doing an investigation of that now...
    Several Dems have put in the request.
     
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  9. rogue49

    rogue49 Tech Kung Fu Artist Staff Member

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    Trump-allied lawyers pursued voting machine data in multiple states, records reveal

    More cracks appearing everywhere...
    Are they going to have enough jail cells???

    uhh, manipulating elections ARE illegal. Duh. :rolleyes:

    Funny thing is, everybody else will go except T...if history and trend continues. (like Reagan, like Nixon, etc...)
    T if ever, will go for something totally different. (mark my words...it will be surreal :eek:)
    Then the guy will spout off about more...just for the attention, spite AND the can't keep his damned mouth shut.

    Plausible deniability...
    The thing keeping the BBGs out of prison for centuries. :oops:
     
  10. rogue49

    rogue49 Tech Kung Fu Artist Staff Member

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    George Conway reacts to Trump's legal team's move in court — CNN Politics

    These kind of legal manipulations fascinate me.
    Like a real life Better Call Saul
    True awareness of what it takes to make people think a certain way
    Then the counters to that

    Makes it all go one longer
    And not get to Justice and consequences

    But from a law/human tactics & strategy are interesting
    Unfortunately for his lawyers, T is a spontaneous idiot who doesn’t listen…or sync
    He says whatever
    No restraint
    Fortunately for US, he is…then it helps us
    Because he’s a screwup
    And we NEED him to lose.
     
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  11. Chris Noyb

    Chris Noyb Get in, buckle up, hang on, & be quiet. Donor

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    NPD Trump demanding transparency is like William J. Casey (no RIP) demanding suspension of the Fifth Admendment.

    The difference between what NPD Trump says and what his legal team does is normal and expected. What isn't normal and expected is a judge going against protecting the affidavit.

    Our "leaders" need to quit giving in to NPD Trump's demands, no matter how bombastic and public.
     
  12. rogue49

    rogue49 Tech Kung Fu Artist Staff Member

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    Appeals court upholds ruling ordering DOJ to release memo on Mueller report — Axios

    Yes, the Mueller report is STILL being looked into.
    All because Barr redacted it when he released it.
    And let T off scott free.

    House Democrats say Trump-appointed watchdog is stonewalling inquiry into Secret Service texts — Axios

    Seeing a pattern here??? :rolleyes:
    Coverup, obfuscation and repression

    This shit is so much worse than Watergate.

    T’s minions infected so many areas of the federal government or lower into state even.
    And much of the GOP is cooperating or assisting.

    Prop up
    Deny and cover up

    There’s truly a need for a Probe
    Multiple so far
    How can ONE man create so much chaos???
    God knows the damage and impact
     
  13. rogue49

    rogue49 Tech Kung Fu Artist Staff Member

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    Michael Cohen suggests Trump will blackmail the DOJ by threatening to reveal secrets to foreign powers

    Uhh, do it! Just do it! Please try to blackmail the DOJ/FBI. :rolleyes:
    Yes, because they always respond well to this.

    The DO has "never" gone after people who gave secrets away. especially foreign powers. :confused::eek::oops:
    NOT!

    I can't off anything faster to get you thrown in jail.
    How long have they been after the Wikileaks lead Julian Assange?
    YEARS

    They're like a bulldog in heat lockjaw and humping leak perps.
    Go for it!
     
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  14. Chris Noyb

    Chris Noyb Get in, buckle up, hang on, & be quiet. Donor

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    NPD Trump wants a Special Master* to oversee the handling of the documents seized at Mar-A-Lago, supposedly to protect his official actions as POTUS.

    Screw him, he doesn't deserve any special consideration. Also the chances are good this' just another stonewall & delay tactic.

    * Sounds like some kind of BDSM thing. It's an actual legal term; I thought NPD Trump had made up a new term.
     
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  15. rogue49

    rogue49 Tech Kung Fu Artist Staff Member

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    Files copied from voting systems were shared with Trump supporters, election deniers — The Washington Post

    Oh wow!!! This is HUGE…way worse than Watergate.
    Now this is a federal issue because it crosses states.

    Tons of privacy and election laws violated.

    There will be people going down for this and then some.

    I’d be surprised if Biden, Garrick and all the other federal and state police entities don’t do a whole wide dragnet to investigate, indict and put these peeps in jail.
    Especially with the recent threats of violence.

    There’s too much risk
    There’s too much danger
    And now too many are saying that our democracy is at risk…it’s becoming a drumbeat among MAGA opposition groups and VIPs.

    This puts dynamite under the smoldering leaf pile.
    Grab your popcorn…
     
  16. rogue49

    rogue49 Tech Kung Fu Artist Staff Member

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  17. rogue49

    rogue49 Tech Kung Fu Artist Staff Member

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    Takeaways from the Mar-a-Lago search warrant affidavit — CNN Politics

    Hmmm, not only an alphabet soup of Top Secret docs
    But actual handwritten letters from T himself!!
    All strewn in boxes with magazines and such mixed in.

    AND there is likely Obstruction proof…
    Oi vey :rolleyes:

    Found only AFTER the Archives requested them back right after he left office.
    AND the FBI ordered them back
    AND they gave some, only to then keep these
    YET his lawyers signed off that they had given ALL back.

    Kept in a large open public building with all types going through and even though the room was supposedly “locked”. What type of lock?? AND uncleared club employees had keys. And and and…

    Geez…

    Implications of Mar-a-Lago search warrant affidavit quiet Trump cheering section — MSNBC

    Uhhh, y’think???
    Even raging loyalist dunderheads that support T knows this IS some big shit. Even worse for them…they’re potentially in the dragnet now.

    IMHO, although I’m cringing to use the phrase…
    Start the chant.
    Lock him up!
    Lock him up!
    Lock him up!

    For real this time…legitimately so and NOT at all an exaggeration. (as before with “that lady” ;) )

    At least hold him at home with no phones
    While all the findings and indictments pile up.
    Because there’s going to be a LOT in the end.

    Fortunately, for T - he’s old, he’ll die in prison raging.
    His allies and co-conspirators will have a lot more time to rot.

    And many of us will kick back smokin’ a big toke of Schadenfreude. :p
     
  18. Chris Noyb

    Chris Noyb Get in, buckle up, hang on, & be quiet. Donor

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    The Feds put Capone in prison for tax evasion, not directly for his criminal activity.

    Seeing NPD Trump spend his final days in prison would be...devine.
     
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  19. rogue49

    rogue49 Tech Kung Fu Artist Staff Member

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    Former CIA officer: "I am angry" — MSNBC

    I’ve been saying this for awhile…years now.
    The cascading consequences of T’s actions are profound
    And will be growing…

    We’re just lucky our allies forgave US so quickly.
    Once the Biden administration went on a healing tour.
    It actually helped that Russia attacked the Ukraine diplomatically.
    Because they rushed back to US in fear and looking for the US to lead within NATO.

    But the Human Resources/spies and financial impact is significant. God knows how many have died or been compromised.

    And how much $$$ has been lost trading away info.
     
  20. rogue49

    rogue49 Tech Kung Fu Artist Staff Member

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    Merrick Garland faces a plethora of tough decisions

    He really does have his hands full.
    But if anyone can do it, MG can...his background is superior.
    And the McConnell and the GOP may come to regret having as AG and not on SCOTUS.
    "You better watch out, you might get what you wish for..."

    I'm hoping he takes it FULL run...
    National, even global, in-depth investigation on the current complex REAL conspiracy of sedition, internal terrorism, foreign corruption and anti-government groups.
    This IS now pervasive throughout the GOP. And there's many that are complicit.
    To what extent...that's unknown. However it IS obvious and apparent something is going on...overlapping even.
    1. Anti-government PACS and influence. Trying to destroy or undermine what govt entities they can. AKA "govt is NO good" mindset taken to extreme.
    2. Put the GOP in dominance, no matter the cost.
    3. Put T up as the new Grand Poohbah Emperor and master of all he surveys (AKA a tyranny/dictatorship)
    4. Racist/Bigot groups
    5. Ultra religious pro-Christian groups
    6. Tribalists - Them vs US mentality taken to extreme
    7. Powermongers - selfish shit who do power by any means needed, mostly to support themselves
    8. Russian/China/Saudis/Iran/etc. - $$$ and influencers - all trying to muddy the water, create chaos, steal US blind and gain any benefit.
    And so on...ANY MORE??? :confused: I can't think off of the top of my head. :oops:

    We've got a clusterfuck scenario...the perfect storm.
    All trying to submarine and overwhelm our nice nation...Mad Max in the end? Mussolini? Sure...those are extreme but basically MESS us up...chaos.
    No more what we KNOW/THINK of Modern America
    And many Dems are simply saying, "It looks like some rain" :rolleyes:

    Garland better zoom and kick up his normally ponderous ways. Effective but tedious. Sorry we need warp drive magnificence.
    BEFORE the GOP takes the House and shits all over everything. :eek: Because that's not IF but WHEN.
     
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