Politics The Elephant in the room...The GOP today

The GOP is much better at "fixing" themselves than the Democrats are. I have no doubt that the GOP will be back in 2022 for the midterms and then run a good 2024 campaign. Nikki Haley would still win over Biden or Harris. And I have never lived someplace that had a Democrat represent me in the House.

Now, I would hope that they don't have a bunch of "moderate" candidates all split the votes in the primary next time, but it will be interesting to see what happens.

 

I certainly agree with the thought that Trump enablers have blood on their hands. Note: It might be my small world, but I haven't previously seen Cruz' speech here in Texas (I think) encouraging violence.

It would be so nice to force the Republican politicians to stand alone, and have to make a decision:
Vote to find Trump guilty of sedition,
or vote to support the Republican party hence condoning the violence.
Make them reveal their true nature.
Give voters something to consider when the politician is up for reelection (of course providing them with reminders and proof).

 

Probably but not quickly.
They let this evil genie out of the bottle and it is going to take a long time to get it back in.
The Impeached 45 played to the absolute worst in their base, people they have up till now been able to keep under control.
They feel impowered now and unless this sweep by the Feds scares them to point that they go back under their rocks it will be a long time before the Republicans can get a handle on them.

 

My problem is that there are plenty of these "perfect" conservatives (Romney, Paul Ryan, Kasich, Portman, McCain, etc...) that allow the bad boy conservatives to attack the things they don't like if they don't have to do anything. A lot of them re all about the tax cuts for the businesses and rich, but go along with the social culture war to get their votes.

 

The freshman (freshperson?) politicians have to follow the party platform if they want to move up in the power structure. Any ideas they have for reform, compromise, putting the country first, etc can be ignored or shutdown. Basically they're forced to be part of the US vs Them divisive partisanship.

It happens with both parties.

I keep the above in mind when listening to politicians, newbies and veterans, who sound sensible and sincere.

 

Given the closeness of the 2020 presidential election,
and the lack of an overwhelming blue wave,
and voters short memories
combined with party stubborness,
and Republican's paranoia of not getting to keep everything,
the GOP could stand pat and be just fine.

The one thing the Republicans need to unite on is:
Keep Conman Trump on the sidelines as far as running for office.
I would suggest keeping him quiet, but that largely remains to be seen.

Hopefully Conman is so tied up legally
he doesn't have time to mouth off.
And he remains so despondent over losing the election
he doesn't mouth off.
Gets old and mentally tired. If he does mouth off it's gibberish.

I'm sure Conman will/could eventually find a social media for his rants. Don't underestimate the faithfulness of his followers, and their money. His comments regarding establishing a social media are not that farfetched. This' something the GOP would not want.



Unless Conman survives his trials (legal and otherwise) relatively unscathed, and comes back fighting. Then what for the GOP?

 

We can hope (and pray, if applicable).

If he's convicted, the reason won't matter. To me.

Actions have consequences; time for Conman Trump to pay up.

 

While Trump's impeachment trial in the Senate won't begin for two weeks, the pre-trial process just started.

Immediately after all 100 senators were ceremonially sworn in to judge the trial honestly and impartially, Sen Rand Paul called for a vote on the constitutionally of an impeachment trial of a president no longer in office.

The vote failed, 55-45, meaning only five Republicans voted that such a trial is constitutional - Romney, Collins, Murkowski, Toomey and Sasse.

 

At least one Republican (Susan Collins who voted with the Democrats that the Senate impeachment trial is constitutional) is reportedly looking at proposing the Senate take some formal action for the record so that her Republican colleagues dont look like total hypocrites.

Scoop: Kaine, Collins pitch Senate colleagues on censuring Trump

As noted in the above , "Some Democrats are interested only if at least 10 GOP senators publicly commit to a censure, thus ensuring the 60-vote margin" (needed to pass such a censure resolution).

I have my doubts that we will see at least 10 Republicans have the honesty, integrity and courage to formally censure Trump for his role in inciting an insurrection through spreading baseless conspiracy theories of a "stolen" election and encouraging his supporters to act to "stop the steal" (as well as personally attempting to illegally or improperly influence the election results in Georgia).

 

I hear they're being threatened by their own rabid constituents.
The non rabid ones are leaving the party and registering as Dem.
Oregon reps going on record the election was stolen ? If I heard that right ?
It's really getting flat earth crazy.
Niki Haley was kind of shocking how easily she was blowing off the whole insurgent deal like a minor gaf ?

It's just amazing how they act like Dems are just chasing non issues.
It's amazing how they cry censorship when it's objectively clear that ppl shun them for being lying, hating ass holes. How hard is that to understand ?

We need a time machine and a bad ass robot.

 

Hypocrisy.

Can you imagine the Republican outcry if it were Obama instead of Trump, with a Republican House and a Democratic Senate?

Which begs the question, would the Democratic Senate do the right thing?



The Republicans will let Conman Trump off the hook without so much as a slap on the wrist. He'll enjoy the usual XPOTUS perks as long as his physical and mental health holds up, and we know how much he likes to travel. We will pay for his travel and pay him to house his SS team.

The Republicans will put their shameful actions behind them. Voters will generally forget, intentionally forget, and favorably recall their shameful actions. A few Republicans will lose to Democrats. Some will lose to GOP challengers in the primaries, but the replacements won't be much different.

Things will go back to normal. History will judge Conman and the GOP harshly, but people without shame can't feel ashamed.

EDIT: I'm thinking the Reupublican have no shame. Correction made: In several places I used shameless when I should've written shameful.

 

Greed and party will win over integrity. Some of the players will be replaced during the primaries, but I don't see a serious shift away from the GOP.

By 2024 Conman Trump could be back on his feet, and ready to run, thanks largely to the current GOP senators lack of integrity and courage. If he wants in but is forced to remain out it will be because of civil legal issues and/or health problems, not the GOP.