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Politics The Elephant in the room...The GOP today

Discussion in 'Tilted Philosophy, Politics, and Economics' started by rogue49, Aug 28, 2012.

  1. redux

    redux Very Tilted

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    Interesting indeed.

    Budget data and objective analyses by CBO and other non-partisan sources versus your mental "adjustments" to fit (at least in your own mind) your per-conceived position.
     
  2. Baraka_Guru

    Baraka_Guru Möderätor Staff Member

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    Toronto
    redux, you're just failing to make the necessary mental logarithmic adjustments.

    Or maybe Ace doesn't realize the chart is showing annualized increases in federal spending, not total government spending.

    As an aside: Holy shit, Reagan really like to pile that shit on. At least, until he realized how damaging it could be with all those tax cuts. At least he seemed to learn his lesson—maybe. Too bad GWB was simply reckless. Tax cuts and government spending for all!
     
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  3. redux

    redux Very Tilted

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    Is there an Android app for that?
     
  4. rogue49

    rogue49 Tech Kung Fu Artist Staff Member

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    Baltimore/DC
    Just because it's so damn funny. :D
    [​IMG]
     
  5. redux

    redux Very Tilted

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    Why we need the restrictive abortion bill that passed in the House today :eek:

     
  6. Charlatan

    Charlatan sous les pavés, la plage

    Location:
    Temasek
    Next up: GOP asks scientists if there is a way to punish masturbating babies.
     
  7. Baraka_Guru

    Baraka_Guru Möderätor Staff Member

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    I would have guessed: post hoc sexual assault charges for these disgusting boys who masturbate inside their own mothers!

    Does being added to the sex offender list in utero sound feasible at least?
     
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  8. redux

    redux Very Tilted

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    I'm wondering if the good congressman's fascination with the sonogram would be considered possession of child pornography under the Child Protection Act of 2012.
     
  9. Baraka_Guru

    Baraka_Guru Möderätor Staff Member

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  10. rogue49

    rogue49 Tech Kung Fu Artist Staff Member

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    Better watch out, you might get what you wish for...

    Talk about unintended consequences.
    Only problem is, what we're left with is the Dems (and they don't inspire or have their act together)

     
  11. rogue49

    rogue49 Tech Kung Fu Artist Staff Member

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    Baltimore/DC
    Is it me...or does it seem like the GOP is now doing a Scorched Earth strategy?

    Like since they seem to know they are going to have a long-term decline due to changing demographics,
    that they stripping or attempting to immediately and aggressively strip any and all progressive...or semblance of progressive policy and law.

    Or is this just because they HATE it all that much?
    They are taking a no-holds-barred approach wherever they have any edge at all.

    Again & again, I'm seeing article after article stating that the Republicans are repealing this & that...upending decades of precedent.
    Opposing this, blocking that, leveraging rules, timing, majority advantages, minority rules, gerrymandering, etc and so on...
    National, state, local, whatever they can get their hands onto...

    No more diplomacy, no more decorum, no compromise...if they see it, they shotgun it. Burn it, raze it to the ground.
    The old-school GOP is dead. The gangsta GOP is raging.

    The question is this.
    Is anyone to going to actually oppose? ...will there be any consequences? Backlash?

    Can we have some subtlety again?
    There is a balance.

     
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  12. rogue49

    rogue49 Tech Kung Fu Artist Staff Member

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    "Let them eat cake..."

    hmm...what happened next, when someone supposedly said this?? :eek:

     
  13. ASU2003

    ASU2003 Very Tilted

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    I'm hoping someone over at the DNC is compiling a long list of everything that they have been doing in order to whip up something to show how it is damaging the country because they are sore losers who aren't getting their way.

    2014 could be interesting if more districts were in play due to changing demographics and political fallout. Although the Democrats need to get the voters out to the polls in the off year.
     
  14. rogue49

    rogue49 Tech Kung Fu Artist Staff Member

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    Actually, if they were smart...they should be creating the list just to have something to hammer them with when elections come around.

    Sure, it'd be nice if they'd do it for idealistic reasons...but I'm a cynic, this is politics...calling Mr. Machiavelli.
    It's a gimme...like when Bill Clinton was stupid enough to get his dick stuck where it was found...GOP had a hey-day.
    Same is true for the Dems here...now it's the GOP who's got a great case of WTF.
    Alls fair...

    Besides, stupidity should be greatly rewarded. ;)
     
  15. Baraka_Guru

    Baraka_Guru Möderätor Staff Member

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  16. Joniemack

    Joniemack Beta brainwaves in session

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    Reading, UK
    The one piece of legislation the Republicans need to get on board with in order to win any future elections (immigration reform) and they close ranks to destroy it, opting instead to pursue more of the "white" vote. It boggles the mind.

     
  17. White House Admits Expert Was Censored : Scientist's Report on 'Greenhouse Effect'
    Significantly Altered
    May 08, 1989|From Associated Press

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    CDC House hearing witness Frumkin submits CDC Director Gerberding’s previously censored testimony
    Posted on April 12, 2008
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    Dem House member: GOP 'sending hungry families straight up under the bus'
    "Well," Edwards explained, "what I wanted is for the Republicans actually to operate with transparency and with accountability and actually prohibit members of Congress who get farm subsidies, who get taxpayer subsidies, who are financed by taxpayers from voting on legislation that would financially benefit them."
    Edwards neglected to mention that conservatives were against the farm bill as well due to the subsidy issue she discussed-------------
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    Passing the immigration bill would be a very destructive act to the low income and unemployed looking for work. Especially so to the black community that the media seems to be intent helping guiding along a path to total self destruction.
    --- merged: Jul 13, 2013 at 10:59 PM ---
    Anyone that would not be hesitant to trust USCIS to actually do its job, should not be in a position to vote on this.

    The agency, the US Citizen and Immigration Services (USCIS), was recently cited for approving 99.5% of all applications it handled under Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals (DACA). DACA is the administrative amnesty for so-called DREAMers. President Obama used a Rose Garden speech in June 2012 to push through DACA using an executive order.
    In a Washington Times report on the unusually high number of approvals, the fear of fraud was raised.
    “The high rate leaves others wondering whether the administration is doing all it can to weed out fraud or potentially dangerous illegal immigrants in DACA, or the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals program, as it’s formally known.”
    In January 2012, the Daily ran an investigative series based on an unpublished Inspector General’s report that concluded that USCIS managers had pressured lower level staffers to rubber stamp Visa applications. The report found that a great number of staffers at USCIS were pressured, with fear of losing their jobs, to rubber stamp applications. The report concluded:

    63 of the 254 Immigration Services Officers (24.8%) responded that they have been pressured to approve questionable applications.​
    Another 35 ISOs (13.9%) had serious concern that employees who focus on fraud and ineligibility were evaluated unfairly.​
    According to the Daily investigation, at least one whistleblower, Christina Poulos, was demoted after coming forward to reveal the scheme.
    USCIS has been run since early 2009 by Alejandro Mayorkas. In the late 1990’s, when working as a US Attorney, Mayorkas became embroiled in the controversial pardon of Carlos Vignali, a politically connected alleged drug dealer who had his fifteen year prison sentence commuted to six years, an action that Mayorkas recommended.
    According to Jessica Vaughan of the Center for Immigration Studies, the overwhelming majority of the millions of immigration applications that will be generated if S. 744 passes will be handled by USCIS. The US State Department will also handle a minority of applications. Applications to be handled by USCIS include Visa applications, Green card applications, as well as applications for provisional status. As such, all of the estimated 10-30 million illegal aliens now in the country will have their applications processed by USCIS.
    Furthermore, said Vaughan, under the proposed bill, all illegal aliens currently in the US will receive provisional status immediately even as their applications are processed by USCIS.
    Rubio, in an editorial for the Wall Street Journal, claimed that S. 744 would have the “toughest immigration enforcement laws in US history.”
    Despite assurances by supporters of this bill that enforcement will be stringent, close examination has found a different story, individuals with as many as two misdemeanors would still be eligible to qualify for provisional status and ultimately citizenship. More recently, an amendment to mandate a biometric system for all entry and exit points was voted down.
    This most recent revelation is even more concerning. That’s because regardless of how the bill is written it will be executed by numerous agencies within the DHS and the State Department. Given that USCIS has a history of simply rubber stamping millions of applications, it stands to reason that millions more will also be rubber stamped, and that will not lead to any sort of tough enforcement.
     
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  18. redux

    redux Very Tilted

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    I am not familiar with Clinton White House censoring anything, but there are numerous examples of how the Bush White House censored, withheld or altered the findings of scientific studies conducted by various federal agencies.


    The House version of the farm bill passed on a party line vote..with only 8 Republicans voting against. Aside from eliminating SNAP completely, the bill they passed not only extends farm subsidies/supports, but eliminated the provision that those subsidies/supports had to be reauthorized every five years and in effect made those subsidies/supports permanent.


    The CBO report on the costs and economic impact of the Senate immigration bill suggested a short term decline in wages, but a long term gain. Other independent also found that there would be no adverse impact on working class Americans.

    There is no basis for your findings.
     
  19. Bush censored and manipulated many things, I can't put links in, but that was on Icky People. It is crazy what mainstream media ignores.
    Tuesday, February 26, 2008
    White House Censors 60 Minutes, Smears Journalists
     
  20. Anyone else agree about Bush censoring information?

    " The House version of the farm bill passed on a party line vote..with only 8 Republicans voting against. Aside from eliminating SNAP completely, the bill they passed not only extends farm subsidies/supports, but eliminated the provision that those subsidies/supports had to be reauthorized every five years and in effect made those subsidies/supports permanent."

    I also wonder what effects the immigration bill will have on the educational and prison systems. Or what effects it may have on gang violence and crime. Especially if the USCIS is allowing those with criminal records in.
    Plus it seems to be a bad time to allow more competitors for jobs into the market with so many unable to find work as it is.
    Although if the these bills are being voted for or against based on party line viewpoint than something is wrong. I want to have a greater understanding about this; could you explain this a little more for me?