Politics The Elephant in the room...The GOP today

There are Hispanic spanish-speaking immigrants (with limited English upon arrival) in virtually every state.

 

Why do i constantly have to repeat what I write? I know you did not directly. expressly equate white voters with racism. I did not say you did. However, if you know it or not, implicit in commentary on these points of data is that the Republican party is becoming a more racist party. These backdoor-like accusations gets a bit irritating to me and I wish the real points could be addressed and that we stop dancing around the issue. Discussing race does not make me uncomfortable - my directness often puts people off balance initially.

I used the word obsolete on purpose. I believe in the past our nation had issues with some wanting to prevent others (of different nationalities for example) from certain services and rights and they had the power to make a big difference. Today, our systems are not dependent on gate-keepers who have that kind of power. For example it is very simple to translate any digital document into any common language in seconds. Why does a bureaucrat in government need to know how many time a brochure is translated into Farsi - I would suggest that it is useless information. However, regarding complexity of various government programs that is a problem for all of us and a law requiring simple and common language would be a good thing.
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I said I would accommodate the people - meaning doing what is reasonable to make the process simple and as streamlined as possible. Perhaps that mean one thing on one boarder and another on a different boarder. The point is efficiency not a one-size fits all mentality.

 

If you believe raising the issue of a White voters declining as percent of total voters is "backdoor-like accusations"..take it up with Jeb Bush, Condi Rice, and numerous other Republicans who have expressed that concern.

You still havent explained how to provide any resources to non (or limited) speaking immigrants if you dont know who they are and/or where they reside.

 

Ace is a symptom of the reason I left the Republican Party. I was upset when they started using the term "intellectual", previously used for the leadership of the GOP, as an insult. It has taken it's natural evolution to turning away from studies and theories based in testable terms to blind ideology. Ideology mixed with theology, in where any evidence that contradicts the ideology must be wrong instead of adapting the logic to fit with new knowledge or shifts in the landscape.

An example of said landscape:

1984 Reagan
525 Electoral Votes, 59% white vote, 9% black vote, 35% hispanic

2012 Romney
206 Electoral Votes, 59% white vote, 6% black vote, 27% hispanic

Clearly you can see the percentages changed almost none, yet the electoral changed drastically. The landscape has changed, and instead of having the intellectual malleability to adapt what is left of the GOP will only dig in and double down. They are more interested in continuing the No True Scotsman debate. If only we could find a real conservative, we'll win!

 

I am not assuming anything. I believe race classifications are obsolete, that they have no purpose, serve no value. I believe that my view is supported by DNA science. Yes, I want to do away with race based classifications. What do you want, to add more. It is ironic, there used to be three - now they have things like Caucasian Hispanic - what the heck is that? Why is it different than a European Caucasian? What is the value in the difference? How is it important?

I am saying what Republican voters have in common are policy views, on outlook, on philosophical approaches to issues.

I think the Democrat Party makes a special effort to market their views based on race and ethnicity or identity politics (who you are). I think the Republican Party often concedes this to the Democrats. I prefer a political precess based on policy or what you think. Democrats do a disservice to the nation in my opinion and the last thing I want is for Republican to play this game.
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You bet I will, when I get a chance. I sent Rice a few emails over the years, she has never responded. I would love for her to run for President and would be the first to let her know how we disagree on some things - I think we would have good discussions. I don't like J Bush - I think he is too political, too PC for my liking - I think discussion with him would be b.s. focused.

If they came to me speaking a language I don't understand I would use SIRI on my Iphone as a start, to firgure out what language it was, then I would.......it is 2013 isn't it, not 1913?

 

Write a letter to Marco Rubio as well..for giving the Republican response to the State of the Union in both English and Spanish.

 

If you do not know there is an implicit argument in the current discussion about Republicans being a party of old white men that the Republican Party is becoming increasingly racist that is your issue. It is not an assumption. If it appeared that I assumed DC knowingly is promoting this, he has my apology - I am not assuming he is knowingly doing it. Regardless if he is knowingly doing it or not, it should end or we should put it on the table and discuss it.

If you can define race, we can proceed. If you can not, you are not talking about racial based differences but some other type of basis for difference - which is it.
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Again, I do not understand you. It appears you do not understand me.

I am curious, what is the important characteristic in your mind and why?

People who will pay to see a Tyler Perry movie or black people?
Men who chew tobacco or Southern white men?

 

Ace...given that you dont want to understand, l think we should just make all immigrants and their children check their language and culture at the border and pledge allegiance to the flag, playing baseball, eating apple pie, going to the gun range on Saturday and church on Sunday.

Who needs diversity. It brings nothing to the country.

 

I am pretty sure the above illustrates how absurd your responses to my posts are. I am guessing your next post is going to be a plea to stop this line of discussion.
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Which claim has been rejected?

What is it that makes someone "black"? What is it that makes someone "white"?

How about you don't even try to answer those questions - I am going to move on, there is nothing to discuss. If you do want to get serious, let me know.

 

Would a Republican bill in NC that criminalizes nip slips and errant areola qualify?

 

Another reason why a two party system is a flawed system. With more parties, there is room for nuance.