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The Complaining and Bitching Thread

Discussion in 'General Discussions' started by ASU2003, Jan 14, 2013.

  1. mixedmedia

    mixedmedia ...

    Location:
    Florida

    Boohead signed up for Japanese this year and they cancelled the class and she ended up taking French instead. Public school fail.
     
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  2. Saiorse

    Saiorse Vertical

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    Why do people always says "Mmhmm" or stare at me when I share the insanity that is called my life? I'm beginning to think it's not a good sign. LOL
    And I'm not even telling the juicy stuff yet......oh, dear.
     
  3. snowy

    snowy so kawaii Staff Member

    I don't think either of us were responding to you, but rather to the German language present in this thread.

    I studied it for four years in high school. It hasn't been particularly useful until recently, and it may prove to be useful in the near future. Apparently German teachers can't get subs.
     
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  4. Saiorse

    Saiorse Vertical

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    I was just kidding around anyway, being silly. I agree the German language sounds angry most of the time, if you don't understand it.
    You're right about it possibly being useful soon with foreign troops inside our nation (not going there, I'll stroke out).

    But you chose German, right? You were given a choice of 4-5 languages you could take? No sub teachers, huh? Hmmm
    Maybe someone doesn't want us to understand the Germans when they talk about us?

    I get upset because I think the mandatory Spanish (in this state, at least) for entire 12 yrs of school is because some people want the USA to become a bi-lingual country, like Canada.
    Our ancestors had to learn English to survive and thrive in this nation. Why do we make things so easy for people today?
    Don't want to learn English language? that's ok - we'll spend the $ printing everything in 2 languages cuz we have money to blow. If you wait on us at a restaurant and we can't even understand you, that's ok - we should've learned whatever language you speak - Arabic, Portugese, whatever
    Don't want to practice long and hard? that's ok - everybody that participates gets a trophy.....so they won't feel like they lost (even when they did).
    Let's build a "turtle road" so the cute little turtles won't get hit by cars. How will they know to use it? I guess we should hire a traffic director to ensure the turtles go under the bridge and are safe.

    Now, we're free to study cow flatulence and other critical issues such as that.

    They are killing what made our country great, piece by piece.
    Yet it goes on and on - our country is going insane.
    WHEN will strong leaders stand up to rescue our great nation from the incompetent, idiotic coneheads?
     
  5. snowy

    snowy so kawaii Staff Member

    Well, I've also studied Spanish and French. I'm still a slacker compared to most of my cousins--they all speak 4 or 5 languages. :eek: Being multilingual is a strength, not a weakness. I admire Canada for the tough path they've chosen. We don't make it easy for immigrants to learn English; as the child of an immigrant and 1st generation American, I know that all too well.
     
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  6. Chris Noyb

    Chris Noyb Get in, buckle up, hang on, & be quiet.

    Location:
    Large City, TX
    In the first grade I had a mandatory Spanish language class. There as no follow-up class the next shool year.

    In the third grade I had a mandatory Spanish language class. There was no follw-up class the next school year.

    In the fifth grade I had a mandatory music class. There was no follow-up class the next school year.

    In the fith grade my main teacher was a religious fanatic who figuratively beat us with her bible. She frequently punished students based on her religious beliefs. Mrs. Boyd, you're probably dead now (thank god, ha, ha, ha), but you're still a bitch.

    In the seventh grade I had a mandatory Spanish language class. There was no follow-up class the next school year.

    The Houston Independent School District was a disorganized money pit, and it still is. We've paid HISD school taxes for 25 years and we don't have children. My wife is a teacher, she has no desire to work for HISD.

    Edit--I'm all for having students in the USA learn at least a second language (Spanish would've been very useful to me living in Texas). I do NOT consider ebonics a language.
     
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  7. mixedmedia

    mixedmedia ...

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    Florida
    Considering that I like my job, why is it always such a bummer to put on scrubs and take my ass there?
     
  8. snowy

    snowy so kawaii Staff Member


    This is actually patently false. Throughout history, people have settled in communities where their own languages were spoken, either through de facto segregation, or de jure segregation, or for simple comfort, even here in the United States. There are still places in this country where you will not hear English spoken, nor Spanish, but Russian, Latvian, Mandarin, Korean, Japanese, etc. In my travels, I have been to many places where I was surrounded by people speaking a language besides English, here in the United States.

    This reminds me of a story a student told me recently. He and his mother were in the checkout at a local grocery store. His mother is a tall, beautiful, STRONG Latina (one parent I'm a little scared of, in a good way), and she was speaking Spanish to her children. Some jerk behind her assumed that she couldn't speak English, and started going off about those Mexicans stealing jobs when they can't even speak English, and she should really learn to speak English or else her children would never know it. She wheeled around and gave the man a piece of her mind in perfect English. The story horrified me at first, that this kind of blatant prejudice towards someone speaking another language could happen here. My students, 14-15 year olds, were equally horrified. In their mind, their community is better than that. What would they say about my own grandparents, who spoke Dutch together until they died? But it also gave me a laugh, because that man clearly didn't know who he was speaking about. I told my student, "Having met your mother, I'm sure she ripped him a new one." "She did!"

    ELL education is actually a relatively new phenomenon. When my father came to this country 60 years ago, it did not exist. I'm grateful that it exists today, and I like the direction it is heading. It should focus on bilingualism. Bilingualism and multilingualism are strengths.
     
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  9. Baraka_Guru

    Baraka_Guru Möderätor Staff Member

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    Toronto
    If I were actually fluent in French, I could be making some serious money here in Toronto.

    But not that stuck-up Parisian merde.
     
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  10. snowy

    snowy so kawaii Staff Member

    Quebecois is a language unto itself.

    One of the things I LOVED about Toronto was the sheer diversity (guess it's appropriate that the city motto is Diversity Our Strength). I've been to several major metropolises in the United States, but I'd never really experienced something like Toronto. I still can't get over that a couple blocks from @kramus's house, the street has more cuisines than I can shake a stick at--and that's COMMON throughout the city. Sure, we have a diversity of cuisines in major cities here in the U.S., but it's rare to see Ethiopian next to Japanese next to Italian next to Vietnamese next to Irish next to Korean next to Sri Lankan the way I did in Toronto.
     
  11. Remixer

    Remixer Middle Eastern Doofus

    Location:
    Frankfurt, Germany

    Hah. I realized that it was a Google translation in the first line. The bad German in the past couple comments isn't what made me sigh, though. You guys actually put a smile on my face. :)

    There are other, much more sigh-worthy, things I was sighing about. :p
     
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  12. snowy

    snowy so kawaii Staff Member

    Hah, my husband asked me why I was reading German aloud. I was like, "Well, I'm translating this piece in my head, but it's not quite right..." It took me a few more lines to realize why. Meanwhile, I was impressed with my ability to still read German.
     
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  13. Saiorse

    Saiorse Vertical

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    Do you have autism and several learning disabilities that include major problems constructing sentences and paragraphs?
    To point a scribe was assigned to write for you? My grandson does.
     
  14. People on Facebook whining and complaining about the first big snowfall of the year in East Jesus Nowhere.
    I'm not targeting the 'it's icy outside, be careful!' posts. You know, the ones that actually show compassion for other human beings and their safety. Those are kosher with me.
    I'm targeting the "EFF ALL OF THIS SNOW" and "Well, guess I'm not going anywhere today... /passiveaggressive" and "Really, EJN? Really?" posts.

    Come on, guys. Most of you have been living here for 2-3+ years, you know the drill. Suck it up, drive carefully, make sure your snow shovel is in an easily accessible location, and get used to it, because this snow isn't going anywhere any time soon.

    Wimps.
     
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  15. Chris Noyb

    Chris Noyb Get in, buckle up, hang on, & be quiet.

    Location:
    Large City, TX
    WTF?
     
  16. snowy

    snowy so kawaii Staff Member

    I fail to see what ASD has to do with your tirade against bilingualism/multilingualism.
     
  17. Saiorse

    Saiorse Vertical

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    @Snowy I would really appreciate it, if you are going to quote me, that you quote more than one sentence which makes my post appear to express things not exactly the way they were in the context of my entire post. Thank you.

    Perhaps you misunderstood me - I didn't say NO language except English should ever be spoken in the USA. I said if they plan to remain here the rest of their lives they should learn English as their second language. Instead some people seem to believe we should adapt to suit them. Multi-lingual - who plans to pay for printing all paperwork in this country - govt and private sectors to be printed in 100 languages? I have to learn Chinese if I want to eat Chinese food?

    I never said that there weren't communities or areas where people of the same country/language SETTLED together who spoke their common language. That happens in both rural and urban areas. MOST of them also gradually learned English. They didn't expect us to learn their language in order to do business or they wouldn't have succeeded too well back then.

    I agree people spoke their own language in their communities, churches, and this was common with all nationalities.

    But many new immigrants, I have read, were so glad to be in this country that they wanted to speak English and succeed in this nation. The Constitution and Declaration of Independence were written in English. Most of the founding fathers were British (can you think of any who weren't? I can't). Schools, Elections, American media (TV, movies, radio, music) was in the English language.

    A common language or means of communication is one sign of a functional country a uniting factor. Everyone who immigrates here cannot demand to ONLY speak their native language and REFUSE to learn any English but expect to be very successful. I find it DISRESPECTFUL to the United State of America when people 'want' to immigrate here but expect all US natives to learn their many languages. I have a problem with that arrogant attitude. It is a privilege to be an American, not a right.

    If I went to a foreign country, I would learn at least a working knowledge of it; not saying I'd be fluent but functional. I would not distain to learn their words but honor them instead by learning.

    Even today, I live near Amish and Mennonites - they speak their own tongue but they also function in our country using the English language. I live near Native American reservation - many tribes LOST their original language because they were forced to learn English on reservation schools and NOT ALLOWED to speak ANY of their native tongue for any reason. My children are part-Cherokee and we are familiar with some of its words, also its written language.

    Cute anecdote from your student about her family. We all can smile and understand an elderly couple living and speaking as they have since young. After losing my soulmate of 40 years few months ago, I can certainly understand the 'secret' language long-time couples share - whether a foreign language or not. I wouldn't be embarrassed of them either. I'd be proud. I could go on and I'm sure you could, too, with anecdotes etc

    But We will have to agree to disagree on whether people should try to learn the language of a new country when they move to it, enough to be a functional part of our government, military, society and businesses......

    Or are they moving a piece of their country over here to claim that soil for their own country?

    History shows a MAJORITY of people who immigrated or came here in some manner, learned to communicate in English - even if among their own people, they spoke their native tongue.

    The schools these days in the United States are a big joke! I'm sure as a teacher, you'll feel insulted.

    Well, I was a nurse and not all my patients recovered.

    So it doesn't make either of us a bad person, teacher or nurse.

    I'm signing off for the night. Everyone have a great one! It's been fun.

    My grandson will be home in a few minutes - so I can teach him all the things about classic Greece, Mojenjo jo Daro,
    literature (which was eliminated from curriculum this year to make room for ?? wasting time)
    and all the many things they didn't have time for in school because he was learning to sew,
    and glue wood together, and sit for 50 minutes in a class he's determined not to even try to pass.
    Time much better spent on his learning disabilities to best develop his potential (not as a seamstress either)
    --- merged: Dec 5, 2013 at 3:23 PM ---
    He has more than just autism. But I'm not going into all that. I have him coming home now to care for.
    That while my grandson was almost feral from his neglectful, abusive mother - they FORCED a second language on a disabled and abused child who could NOT SPEAK ENGLISH YET due to the neglect.
    It only confused him and made it more difficult for him.
    That's MY beef. That everyone must take Spanish, no choices, no allowances for children with special needs.
    Because some people don't want to learn English.
    Fine, but don't make my grandson learn Spanish when he's an AMERICAN and should be able to just speak English if he wishes it so.

    A pleasant night to all.
     
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  18. GeneticShift

    GeneticShift Show me your everything is okay face.

    Hahaha. That pisses me off so badly. And it's just as bad down here, because a half inch means those kinds of statuses pop up.
     
  19. So my new office doesn't have a lunch area, so I just close the door to the office and eat my lunch. Rude coworker came barreling in and left thee door wide open. So of course everyone thinks I'm back from lunch. I still have 5 minutes god damn it.
     
  20. Plan9

    Plan9 Rock 'n Roll

    Location:
    Earth
    Go ahead. Say it. Sparkling wine.

    I will throat chop you.​

    ...

    Hey, small business owner: When I email you for a quote and say that email is my preferred contact method, please refrain from immediately calling my cellphone.

    Yes, I realize you want to do business through an overpriced radio handset but I'd rather have the details in writing instead of wasting yet another Post-It note.
     
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