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Politics The 4th Estate - Media....is it truth or fiction? TFP pundits will examine.

Discussion in 'Tilted Philosophy, Politics, and Economics' started by rogue49, Nov 5, 2012.

  1. rogue49

    rogue49 Tech Kung Fu Artist Staff Member

    Location:
    Baltimore/DC
    Not about consequences but who wins and loses
     
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  2. rogue49

    rogue49 Tech Kung Fu Artist Staff Member

    Location:
    Baltimore/DC
    Do your jobs
    It’s not just about tweets and screen time
     
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  3. rogue49

    rogue49 Tech Kung Fu Artist Staff Member

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    he’s fairly conservative
     
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  4. rogue49

    rogue49 Tech Kung Fu Artist Staff Member

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  5. rogue49

    rogue49 Tech Kung Fu Artist Staff Member

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    Just surreal
     
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  6. rogue49

    rogue49 Tech Kung Fu Artist Staff Member

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    Baltimore/DC
    For good or bad...and it’s going to get a hotter.
     
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  7. ASU2003

    ASU2003 Very Tilted

    Location:
    Where ever I roam
    This administration and the Tea Party conservative movement before it have exposed a lot of flaws and weaknesses in the system. And that it was never setup to handle someone who commits so many crimes and scandals, yet delivers on specific political issues for their base and has enough support to remain in power with no consequences.
     
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  8. rogue49

    rogue49 Tech Kung Fu Artist Staff Member

    Location:
    Baltimore/DC
    So...it comes down to reading various stories
    And putting on your thinking cap

    ...something many aren’t into doing themselves
     
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  9. rogue49

    rogue49 Tech Kung Fu Artist Staff Member

    Location:
    Baltimore/DC
    Still they try more than most, these days to be unbiased
     
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  10. rogue49

    rogue49 Tech Kung Fu Artist Staff Member

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    Baltimore/DC
    Media owns this too
    They cannot be just “observers”
     
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  11. Chris Noyb

    Chris Noyb Get in, buckle up, hang on, & be quiet.

    Location:
    Large City, TX
    Recently I've been watching a lot of network national & world news.

    Apparently every host is either spineless, or has been told not to upset their guest. Not one of them makes their guest actually answer the question that was asked.

    Gawd forbid should any "journalist" stop the spin answers and make the guest give real answers to meaningful questions.

    This entire 'play nice or I won't appear on your show' and 'I won't make you actually answer my questions' game makes me sick.
     
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  12. rogue49

    rogue49 Tech Kung Fu Artist Staff Member

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    Baltimore/DC
    I'm not going to watch for fluff.
     
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  13. Chris Noyb

    Chris Noyb Get in, buckle up, hang on, & be quiet.

    Location:
    Large City, TX
    The numbers for the recent Trump and Biden separate town hall meetings is interesting: Biden 13.9M, Trump 13.1M.

    And I just realized this really belongs in presidential race thread.
     
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  14. Chris Noyb

    Chris Noyb Get in, buckle up, hang on, & be quiet.

    Location:
    Large City, TX
    How does Margaret Brennan keep her job at CBS?

    She asks the wrong tough questions with the wrong guests.

    She asks the right tough questions with the right guests...and then lets them avoid answering the actual question.

    She sucks.
     
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  15. rogue49

    rogue49 Tech Kung Fu Artist Staff Member

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    Even they battle themselves about releasing things.

    It comes down to the owners and the strength/will of the editors.
     
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  16. rogue49

    rogue49 Tech Kung Fu Artist Staff Member

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    Baltimore/DC
    Just give us the fuckin' news.
     
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  17. Chris Noyb

    Chris Noyb Get in, buckle up, hang on, & be quiet.

    Location:
    Large City, TX
    The Republicans and conservative spinning news media didn't scream about the voting system being broke after Lesser George was declared the winner in 2000.

    Could it be because the "their" candidate won?
    Would have they whined long and loud if he had lost? :rolleyes:
     
  18. redux

    redux Very Tilted

    Location:
    Foggy Bottom
    Cumulus Media, the company that employs many popular right wing radio talking heads and whose business model is based on inflammatory rhetoric, lies and conspiracy theories, told those radio hosts to "tone it down" or you're out on your ass....

    Talk-radio owner orders conservative hosts to temper election fraud rhetoric

    “We need to help induce national calm NOW,” Brian Philips, executive vice president of content for Cumulus, wrote in an internal memo, which was first reported by Inside Music Media. Cumulus and its program syndication arm, Westwood One, “will not tolerate any suggestion that the election has not ended. The election has been resolved and there are no alternate acceptable ‘paths.’ ”

    “If you transgress this policy, you can expect to separate from the company immediately.”
    (more)​

    Expect to hear cries of " censorship" and "corporate sell-out" for the company's rational response to the current heated environment among its millions of listeners.
     
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  19. boink

    boink Slightly Tilted Donor

    Location:
    Seattle
    My bitch, the most egregious bitch I can think of within the realm of news I preferred to watch is with PBS News Hour.
    Back in 2015 they were doing a chat about the campaign fundraising stuff..all the evil dark money, the pacs and all...and how much money was being gathered too.
    They managed to do the whole segment without saying Bernie Sanders, or 27 bucks.
    At this point in the game Bernie and his stance on fundraising was common knowledge as well as the 27 bucks and how great he was doing with that.
    I was like...wtf ? How could you not mention Bernie ??
    This pissed me off so much I decided public broadcasting was dead to me, period.
    Brooks, of Shields and Brooks always pissed me off big time at how brick stupid he was about Trump. I don't get how he has a job. He's a fucking idiot. I like Shields.
    So now I only see this old house on utube.
    I also dropped npr at this time.
    I went on for a year or so with a news fast. Fuck the news, I'm done.

    That said I did donate to Bernie many times and usually double the 27 bucks, plus phone banked and door to door voter visits in the area.

    Then slowly google headlines creeped into my mornings and I got into the habit of reading the Hill and Axios

    Then I got drawn into clips of the major networks on utube plus some of the indy pundits there.
    The utube pundits to me mostly say about the same stuff the networks seem to say so..if I do watch one like Bryan Talor Choen I tend to watch the clip they comment on and turn them off when they start talking cause, I can think for myself thanks. Same for TYT , these guys seem like they talk way more than they show clips of political events and I just don't care for their banter.

    I prefer the comentors brought in to the networks if I want things dissected into how govt. works or legal stuff...or climate, virus, economy etc.
    Past 3 weeks I haven't seen much more than Don Lemon, Lester Holt, Chris Cuomo or Bryan Williams on my tv. I like all of these guys more or less. But I feel saturated.

    Probably what I miss the most is the Fairness Doctrine...I mean who needs that any more than those pesky gay folk who died of aids ? Thanks Ronnie you fucking piece of shit.

    One thing that makes me sick is the constant ghoulish exploitation of things like Ramsy girl who vanished or the Anna Nicole Smith death and how the networks just rolled in that like pigs in slop to get eyeballs on their advertising.

    I watched some news parody for a while but Larry Wilmore I do miss more than any others..

    I don't care for Rachel Madow because she's so smug and so happy to tell about how shitty things are. She details it out like her audience is 5 year olds and she needs to fill out 15 minutes with what can be said in 3 sentences/two minutes.

    Seems like shes happy the next gen of children in Flynt will have brain damage if she can tell us a republican is to blame.

    One thing I've really liked recently is the Spitting Image reboot. I've been watching that on utube. Funny shit, cartoonie and raunchy.
    Seems fitting for these times.
     
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  20. rogue49

    rogue49 Tech Kung Fu Artist Staff Member

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    Baltimore/DC
    I'm a fan of BBC World. - it's like old-school TV news
    dry and focused on the facts.

    But the camera work is clear and crisp.

    A much better perspective of global news too.
    Not just US and UK
     
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