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Politics The 2024 US Presidential Election

Discussion in 'Tilted Philosophy, Politics, and Economics' started by ASU2003, Jun 7, 2023.

  1. Chris Noyb

    Chris Noyb Get in, buckle up, hang on, & be quiet.

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    Am I crazy, or stupid, for not paying much attention to the Iowa caucuses? I understand the importance of starting on a winning note, but don't see how it actually matters in the long run.
     
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  2. boink

    boink Slightly Tilted Donor

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  3. Chris Noyb

    Chris Noyb Get in, buckle up, hang on, & be quiet.

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    Last edited: Jan 15, 2024
  4. rogue49

    rogue49 Tech Kung Fu Artist Staff Member

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    Read it, completely agree. The US method of madness, is just that. Messed up.

    Pathetic, they would even consider a criminal. And DeSantis is just Cruz in a different suit.
    At least Haley showed up enough to not drop. And thankfully Ramaswamy dropped out, one less thing to worry about. :rolleyes:

    We're in for a stupid (and scary campaign) :confused::oops:

    I'm just hoping Biden keeps eating his vitamins...
    AND no hiccups.
     
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  5. boink

    boink Slightly Tilted Donor

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    I think Vivek is down for vp. I think he'd subvert the vote, he's a young megalomaniac. Loves achievement via throwing people under the bus. Only thing he doesn't seem to do is sleaze on teeners and, if he has one, his own daughter. He's a clean generation bankster pump n dumper. The neo American dreamer.
     
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  6. Chris Noyb

    Chris Noyb Get in, buckle up, hang on, & be quiet.

    Location:
    Large City, TX
    I'm not sure NPD Trump would want a strong (in a very bad way) VP candidate, unless Ramaswampy has been putting on an act that can be controlled by NPD Trump.

    Another factor is the xenophobia NPD Trump promotes & exploits. I'm sure Ramaswampy is totally anti-immigrants, except the ones who can afford to go the full legal route*, and esp since his family is safely here. But he could be used to help draw in the conservative voters who support selective immigration.


    *The process for allowing immigrants from India & Pakistan into the USA is a joke, a really shitty joke. It's a mix of money, correctly worded paperwork coming from the "right" people reaching the "right" people, & having sponsors.
     
  7. boink

    boink Slightly Tilted Donor

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    Good points all true.
    Trump has praised his bootlicking talk. I think VR would accept, I agree T might not offer the position.

    I think VR is taking g drugs because he talks so fast. It's a trump tactic to flood the air with so much bullshit so fast your brain looses track (there is no track) 'Swami is a Hindi so bovine excrement is a sacrament.

    I'm ignorant of immigration processes. I wouldn't know it's different for people coming from different places.
     
  8. rogue49

    rogue49 Tech Kung Fu Artist Staff Member

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    Haley says she won't debate unless Trump is on stage — POLITICO

    About damn time…

    This crap about Chump ducking debates, makes them worthless.

    Frankly, I don’t watch them until the General Election
    But everything has got to be fair.

    Chump has upended the process.

    It’s basically going back to when party leaders would anoint the candidate.
    Forget about any vote.

    The GOP is not about fair.

    ———————-

    Wouldn’t it be interesting if circumstances completely changed and it was Haley vs Harris???
    A different world in the US
    Who hasn’t kept up with the rest of the world, politically.

    Kinda like we figured out the new Way at the beginning
    Then improved on the Way after WWII after shooting ourselves in the foot
    Then cleaned up the Way in the 90’s
    Only to mess our sobriety up in 2000 on
    But still playing by old school rules since last century.

    We gotta get sober and play fair. Like Grownups.
     
  9. Chris Noyb

    Chris Noyb Get in, buckle up, hang on, & be quiet.

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    Haley vs Harris. I see some weaknesses -- real or imagined, fair or unfair -- right away. Haley doesn't come across as very bright (isn't?), she has a southern accent, & she's female. Harris is black, & female.

    Don't kill the messenger. The female factor would be a huge issue for some voters.
     
  10. boink

    boink Slightly Tilted Donor

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    Trump never 'debates' I don't believe he knows how.
    Anyone with marginal understanding of a debate knows this so...yeah. he's a shit talker, period. Anything he says that's slightly on topic is straight out of his ass bullshit showing clearly is organized crime frame of mind and method, or his ability to mimic grifti g televangelist
     
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  11. Chris Noyb

    Chris Noyb Get in, buckle up, hang on, & be quiet.

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    DuhSantis has dropped out of the Repub primaries.

    Of course he has endorsed NPD Trump (having a demented dictator in the WH is better than not having the Presidency?).
     
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  12. boink

    boink Slightly Tilted Donor

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    Well !! That's cool !
    I feel between Nikki and Ronnie, the latter is more the deliberate ass hole and pandering Christian authoritarian.

    I think Nikki has a chance at forcing T to be a write in, if the SC can see their way to DQ orange jesus. I'm not so sure NH can beat T for the nomination.
     
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  13. rogue49

    rogue49 Tech Kung Fu Artist Staff Member

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    One less thing to worry about.

    Maybe he can go back to working on Florida...in a better way, since he doesn't have any near term presidential aspirations. (doubt it, but one can hope :rolleyes:)

    Hayley, is starting to attack Chump, but too little, too late, IMHO.

    The GOP will likely be stuck with dumb version 0f Jabba The Hut
     
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  14. rogue49

    rogue49 Tech Kung Fu Artist Staff Member

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    Trump Challenged Haley To An ‘Aptitude Test,’ And You Know What Happened — HuffPost


    Uhhh, talking about aptitude tests are NOT what you wanna do when campaigning for prez.

    She should accept the challenge immediately.
    Just to see how much he backpedals. :rolleyes:

    When running for prez
    You’re supposed to look calm, cool and able to handle ANYTHING
    If not even take charge of it all.

    That’s one of the reasons Obama won over McCain
    When the shit hit the fan with the banking crisis at the start of the Great Recession,
    McCain wanted to suspend campaigning
    Obama just said, no need, we got this.

    Tests…are a ding
    The campaign itself is a true test…the ability to lead
    And answer the real problems
    Because the prez isn’t supposed to pass the buck.

    Hayley has MUCH more aptitude than Chump

    He just represents rage…not capability
     
  15. rogue49

    rogue49 Tech Kung Fu Artist Staff Member

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    Chump won, but Hayley wasn't far behind.
    It's not a winner takes all in deligates.
    This only the 2nd and hopefully she takes it all away to the end.
    Her home state is up next.
    I want her to drag on him as much as possible.

    A key point is Biden actually won with write-ins. (as he wasn't on the ballot)
    A good showing.

    Much that media forgets, while shouting outloud.
    This sums it up well.
    Of course Trump is dominating the primaries. That doesn’t mean he’ll beat Biden | Robert Reich

    But still nerve racking for me, I hate that the orange idiot is still around and being talked about.
    Our nation is taking a risk and messing ourselves up. :confused:
     
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  16. Chris Noyb

    Chris Noyb Get in, buckle up, hang on, & be quiet.

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    Yeah, I was wondering why the news media appears to be surprised by NPD Trump showings. I could see that level of surprise if one of his other candidates took a state.
     
  17. rogue49

    rogue49 Tech Kung Fu Artist Staff Member

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  19. Chris Noyb

    Chris Noyb Get in, buckle up, hang on, & be quiet.

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  20. rogue49

    rogue49 Tech Kung Fu Artist Staff Member

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