Politics The 2020 US Presidential Election

It was a safe political move for him to make. If he had come out for Bernie or Biden he was taking a risk of not having a job in their administration if the other one got the nomination.

I do wonder who Warren supporters second choice is if it comes down to having to switch and choose Biden or Bernie at the convention?

 

I don't think most Warren supporters will go to Biden.
She is far closer to Bernie than she will ever be to Biden, politically.

 

With the Senate impeachment possibly happening before the Iowa Caucuses now, some people are saying the Senators should fly together to either save money or reduce emissions. The conservative media is calling them hypocrites too (mainly because they don't want them to win Iowa or for them not to be in the Senate for the impeachment)

However, could you imagine the conspiracy theories and problems that would be caused if all 5 Democratic senators were in a plane crash? You would be left with Biden, Bloomberg, Buttigieg, Delaney, Gabbard, Patrick, Steyer, and Yang... The Internet and Democratic voters would be trying to put the blame on the DNC establishment, the other candidates left in the race, the ultra rich who don't want to be taxed, Trump/Russia because he doesn't want to face them in November, and the GOP who is afraid of losing the senate in November.

The even scarier thing to think about is that I don't think Trump would lose any support if he used a drone to strike the plane, and I'm not even sure the Senate would be able to come up with enough votes to remove him.

 

What are the reasons why they didn't pick the others? I refuse to give them any clicks on this because I feel it wasn't their place to endorse anyone in the primaries. Not that I have any problems with Warren or Klobuchar. They really should have endorsed every Democrat if they wanted to be fair and unbiased. But it would also show that there are good parts to every candidate, however, there isn't a perfect candidate.

 

What if the ignorant, the misguided, the disenfranchised, the contrarians, and the stupid yet again create a Perfect Storm that re-elects Trump?

His being elected was bad enough. Although it did show that our democracy works, sometimes with very bad results. His re-election would show the USA to be a nation of idiots.

At this point I'll be happy with the candidate with best chance to defeat Trump.

 

I don't think this map would be outside of the realm of possibilities. There aren't many that will lead to his re-election, but there are enough voters out there that are going to vote for him no matter what, that we don't know what will happen. I just hope it isn't 3am on the East Coast and we don't know who won Florida, North Carolina, and Wisconsin, and then we are waiting for Arizona to determine it all. Heaven help us if Maine goes all blue and there is a tie. It should be who won the popular vote total if there is a tie, but I don't think that is the case. I think they send it to the house and whichever party has more members in the house gets 1 vote. And I believe he would win re-election about 30-20 with the smaller states being more powerful than the big states again.

Although after the conduct of the GOP and the problems that haven't been fixed, or made worse, I would hope that the people would vote for the outcome that looks like this:


It would take a few 10-20 million people who didn't vote last time to come out and vote for the Democrat. But this is what the conservatives fear and why they should up to vote. They are aging out though, with millions of young people becoming voters and older baby boomers passing away. This might not happen in 2020, but I would expect it to be more likely in 2024 and 2028 depending on who the candidates are.

 

Iowa.....what a fiasco!

 

Unfortunately I think they are just complete fucking idiots.
They picked 2 progressive activists to design and execute the app.
They had about 2 months to do it.
Not surprisingly, total failure.
At least if you go to Google or IBM, and have professionals do it, and then it fails, you have someone to blame.
Dems can only look at themselves in the mirror for this.
Are they actually going to figure out a way to lose to Trump again?

 

I'm not sure "progressive activist" is the right way to describe the group that made the app. At least from the reporting I've seen.

But, I agree, this wasn't rocket science levels of difficulty here. They only had to count up 1700 public vote totals in a few columns on a spreadsheet. Hell, back in college, I should have created this app for my computer science class. Although the professor probably would have thought that it wasn't complicated enough.

But forget the app, why did it take them so long to count the paper results? Why did the phone system not work? Why after 24 hours+ are they only at 62%? Elections have been going on for decades in Iowa, some even before telephones. I bet the results came in faster.

All I know is that Iowa better not be the 1st state to hold a caucus/primary in 2024. And the DNC needs to stop tampering in the primary. We shouldn't need to have international UN monitors overseeing the Democratic primaries, but at this point I don't know of any way that this is going to end up working out OK. We kind of know that nobody is going to be coming into the convention with 50.1% of the delegates, so that means it will be a contested convention and I worry that the losing supporters are going to be upset. Especially if it is found out that the DNC is manipulating the media narrative on purpose.

But it also wasn't the only problem in Iowa.
Des Moines Register poll scrapped after apparent mishap

 

i know that way to reach people and for them to remember who you are is to touch them in 3 ways.... but fuck im so tired of seeing michael bloombergs commercials