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Stifler's Mom is Lying

Discussion in 'General Discussions' started by issmmm, Nov 8, 2011.

  1. greywolf

    greywolf Slightly Tilted

    Does the story sound a little contrived? Maybe. But maybe she doesn't want to get really detailed until she writes the story for Literotica or some other erotic tale site. Maybe the two actions (hand under skirt, pulling head to groin) weren't simultaneous. Maybe she's embellishing a little. Maybe her memory is slightly coloured by time and the revulsion to this man for what he did.

    But from my point of view, this woman is so calm and coherent and consistent in her telling of the tale that she is either:

    a) telling to the truth, or;
    b) so far off the deep end she's suffered a psychotic break with reality and maybe should have a syndrome named after her.
     
  2. So, is this enough to derail a Presidential campaign? Just the allegation of sexual misconduct? That could happen to anyone under false pretenses, not implying these are. It is perplexing. Should the accusations be taken at face value? Without further substantiation or corroboration, without more evidence it probably won't change many people's feelings on Cain. If you liked him before, you probably still do. Possibly harden those who did not support him.

    All I know is I've seen enough of this and past Presidential campaigns to know that I will never ever consider running for President. NFW!!!
     
  3. Remixer

    Remixer Middle Eastern Doofus

    Location:
    Frankfurt, Germany
    To answer Craven's question: yeah, I believe so.

    Just the allegation by "Stifler's Mom" shouldn't be enough to derail it, but compounded with the past history of Cain having been named in sexual harassment complaints well before he started his presidential campaign, it goes to a whole other level of making him look very dubious to those who were sitting on the fence or are "loose" supporters of Cain. It cannot affect his campaign in a positive manner.

    Public opinion is a fickle bitch.
     
  4. I agree with the part about being coupled with past complaints. There's smoke, so there's a high likelhood of fire. Without that, I don't know. Is that enough?
     
  5. issmmm

    issmmm Getting Tilted

    Not a good case study in that Cain wasn't going to get the nomination with or without the allegations
     
  6. Joniemack

    Joniemack Beta brainwaves in session

    Location:
    Reading, UK
    I've been entertaining myself lately watching a good number of you-tube videos featuring the delightful Mr Cain.

    I pride myself on my arrogant prick radar. My radar reveals that Herman Cain is an arrogant prick. Some arrogant pricks are also narcissistic pricks. Living with a narcissistic prick for over 20 years, I've developed radar for that too. It reveals that Herman Cain is probably a narcissistic prick, as well.

    Narcissistic pricks do things with little thought to consequence. As everything is all about them and everyone is spinning in infinity around them in a universe that is also there for them and them alone, the idea that anything they do is "wrong" or might be considered "wrong" is out of the realm of consideration.

    Displays of arrogance alert others of their god-like status and they are happiest when someone requires something of them - as they actually get to play the other, magnanimous side of being a god. But there's always a cost involved and a price to pay for the magnanimous gesture and the cost never equates with the gesture. The cost is always whatever the narcissist desires at that moment. For him, the transaction is always equitable and even if he is aware that his price is a bit over the top, it's still fair because what he wants is more important than how anyone might feel about it.

    I have no problem seeing Cain boldly making an ass out himself with women.
     
  7. Lindy

    Lindy Moderator Staff Member

    Location:
    Nebraska
    Sig's car is a 2005 Subaru Legacy. Bucket seats and a stickshift. I'll sure admit that it might be easier in a car with a flat bench front seat, but I don't know what car Cain drives. But my BF is also pretty thin and agile. Herman Cain is not.
    And who is the victim? I've heard it asserted that black men don't get the same "presumption of innocence" that whites get. Seems to be true here.

    Lindy
     
  8. Baraka_Guru

    Baraka_Guru Möderätor Staff Member

    Location:
    Toronto
    The first woman to go public about being sexually harassed by Cain. The rest I haven't heard much about, especially those who haven't gone public.

    You know..."Stifler's mom"---the "gold digger"---the woman who is currently having her character grilled simply for going public about her case.

    "You've heard" and "seems to be true"? Are you suggesting a racist conspiracy?
     
  9. the_jazz

    the_jazz Accused old lady puncher

    Herman Cain is not NOW. What about Herman Cain 12 years ago? What if he's taller than you SO and has the seat farther back? And the passenger farther back as well?

    Disbelieving because of logistics is fine. But disbelieving because of logistics when you don't have any of the facts pretty much means you just want to disbelieve.

    I honestly don't have an opinion about Cain other than his 9/9/9 plan is aimed solely at making the rich richer on everyone else's back. Other than that, I haven't bothered to learn much. This lady may even be full of shit. But saying that she is based on a - for instance - 2005 Honda Accord when he drove a 1996 Cadillac is silly.
     
  10. Lindy

    Lindy Moderator Staff Member

    Location:
    Nebraska
    I'm actually more inclined to believe the earlier accusers. "Stiffler's mom" is just too nicely orchestrated by the publicity whore lawyer, who has absolutely nothing to lose and a great deal to gain in this.

    Can liberals be racist? Or is a conservative black man is so automatically anathema, that he must be shunned or pounded back down. Is a black conservative is the modern analog to "uppity," which can't be tolerated?

    Could be, could be. That's about what I suggested in my post, when I wrote:
    Going back to my post...


    Please re-read my first post (#17) in this thread. I never said or even implied that she was full of shit. I expressed a healthy skepticism for this "let's jump on the harassment bandwagon before it gets away" lawyer. My post was not a defense of Herman Cain. Re-read my first line. How could you construe that as anything other than a criticism of him?

    Lindy
     
  11. the_jazz

    the_jazz Accused old lady puncher

    Lindy, you've missed my point. You've tried to claim that because you can't reproduce similar results in your car, it's doubtful that it happened. I cannot find your claims plausible in any way. It's bad science.

    As for the rest, when you insert "BUT..." you're clearly drawing attention to the explanation you concocted. That's fine. If you believe him, that's fine. If you don't, that's fine. But you're saying you doubt her story based on an apple-based comparision when she's discussing oranges. Like I said, bad science.
     
  12. Baraka_Guru

    Baraka_Guru Möderätor Staff Member

    Location:
    Toronto
    Well, that's what the courts are for, aren't they? That's my point.

    I have no idea where this is coming from, so I'm just going to leave it filed under "WTF?"...
     
  13. I would normally dismiss this, considering the author, however I assume she is correct where all the compliants have come from. Would be too easy to research and prove her wrong. Coincidental? Black helicopters? Goof ball commentary? Chicago politics?

    Beats me.

    http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=47438

    BTW the author is Ann Coulter. FWIW
     
  14. issmmm

    issmmm Getting Tilted

    Mrs. Cain's interveiw with Greta Van Sustren to air Monday/Today