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Politics Russia - the Bear has become the world's bully again (China, Iran, N Korea too)

Discussion in 'Tilted Philosophy, Politics, and Economics' started by rogue49, Mar 3, 2018.

  1. Chris Noyb

    Chris Noyb Get in, buckle up, hang on, & be quiet.

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    I've read a few articles that say waiting for Putin to be removed (assinated) is futile because many important people in the Russian security and intelligence services owe Putin big time. Attempts with any chance of success would have to come from the people closest to him, and that's highly unlikely to happen.

    Let's be honest. Politically motivated assinations have been & will continue to be part of world history.
     
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  2. rogue49

    rogue49 Tech Kung Fu Artist Staff Member

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    NRA Releases Full Trove of Data Critical to Russia's National Security - Kyiv Post - Ukraine's Global Voice

    Oopsie! :oops:
    Pootie-Poot y'gotta lock yo backdoors up.
    Otherwise yo pooter is violatated.

    NTTAWWT. :D

    Freedom of information, just like all those people you're support that leaked in the US.
    Same diff. :rolleyes:

    What goes around, comes around.

    Damn, ya cannot even threaten them with NUKES!!! :confused:
    What's a tyrant to do????

    Ain't Karma a bitch? Well, here at least, she's Russian. ;)

    * NRA isn't National Rifle Assoc....it's a Russian hacker group here. READ TFA.
     
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  3. rogue49

    rogue49 Tech Kung Fu Artist Staff Member

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    Russia's Prigozhin admits interfering in U.S. elections

    Well, duh :rolleyes:
    And frankly, this is just the tip of the iceberg.

    FYI, as a cybersecurity expert, I know and see there IS a HUGE cyberwar going on, with Russia & China, being the top 2 instigators. (Iran, NK, etc...for bonus baddies)
    They both have MONSTEROUSLY sized state-sponsored teams and hacker contacts, that continuously act.
    I get a report TWICE a day, where many times, Russia's name pops up and on quarterly and annual reports too, where they get their own special highlight section.

    While China dabbles in foreign manipulation (like Canada just accused), they're just a bunch of thieves. Stealing anything not locked down. (* China's govt NOT Chinese, they're victims too)
    Russia however has a new fuck everyone else method, to cause havoc & chaos, having spies, VIPs and hackers all trying to corrupt the US, NATO allies or ANY opposition. :mad:

    This guy is just one of MANY! :eek:
    There's a horde of radioactive cockroach manipulators in Russia trying to infect any enemy. (* again, Russia's govt NOT Russians, they're also victims too)

    We've got out hands full, both government and corporate, preventing impact & damage.
    And it's likely going to get worse.

    Because, THIS is only what they admit to. (to intimidate and arrogantly say fuck you)
    And what we "may" know...
    BUT there's TONS hidden and what we do NOT know...
    That's the real danger. :confused:
     
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  4. rogue49

    rogue49 Tech Kung Fu Artist Staff Member

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    Putin’s Doomsday Scenario — The Atlantic

    Chemical weapons are not NUKES! :mad:

    1. The damage & impact of nukes is much more substantial, both immediate & long-term.

    2. Chemicals aren’t an automatic trigger for the opposition’s chemicals. Nukes ARE. (in most cases, these days)
    This is what the M.A.D. Doctrine is all about.

    3. Ukraine could potentially deal with chemicals even if horrible and come back. No chance on Nukes.

    4. Nukes would be the ultimate indication that Putin has gone insane and is fully unstable. As well as any cronies that support it.

    No going back if even one is used…

    The only benefit nukes have had is the threat of them
    Has prevented another global war.

    IMHO, sad that we humans need obliteration as a crutch to keep peace.

    Let’s not go down that rabbit hole.
    And hopefully, Putin doesn’t become the Red Queen
    Even the Mad Hatter was more sane than her. :confused:
     
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  5. rogue49

    rogue49 Tech Kung Fu Artist Staff Member

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  6. rogue49

    rogue49 Tech Kung Fu Artist Staff Member

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    Yes, damn straight
    Thank goodness that it wasn't another Czechoslovakia
    That Z pulled a Churchill and stood up to a tyrant, P.

    This will help save the Ukraine.
    Strengthened NATO
    Unified Europe, if not most of the rest of the world
    Kept a bully from winning
    Focused the US
    and more...

    Just from Z's pure audacity and bravery,
    As well as a call to truth, speaking in eloquence yet clear so any rationale person could absorb.
    He will go down in history. :cool:
     
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  7. Chris Noyb

    Chris Noyb Get in, buckle up, hang on, & be quiet.

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    Zelenskyy will, but IMO with a note that the entire country stood with him.

    The Churchill reference is interesting. In world history Churchill is a strong hero, to a now deceased generation of Brits he was the PM who gave the order to kill striking miners.

    I'm firmly behind Zelenskyy & Ukraine, but let's not forget we're discussing a country where getting things done involves questionable (by our too innocent Western standards) wheeling & dealing.

    I don't think we understand the accepted & expected "What's in it for me?" attitude that's prevalent in much of the world.
     
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  8. rogue49

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    ‘We are Ukrainians. We’re strong’: morale the key in Kyiv as winter sets in

    Despite Russian bombings, to win in a War of Attrition - leveraging Winter to make the Ukrainians fail.
    One thing that Russia may not be foreseeing,
    That most of the rest of the world is fully supporting Ukraine. - they won't be isolated.
    The world, NATO, UN, etc... can send in Red Cross, Food and other supplies in masse.
    And Putin can't do anything about it...even threats and saber rattling are normally used about weapons...not supplies. :p
     
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  9. Chris Noyb

    Chris Noyb Get in, buckle up, hang on, & be quiet.

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    ^
    Putin could do something about it.
    Something drastic.
    Let's hope he doesn't.
     
  10. Chris Noyb

    Chris Noyb Get in, buckle up, hang on, & be quiet.

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    US says Russia abruptly postpones arms control talks

    Russia decides the agreement with the USA allowing mutual inspections of nuclear arms (SMART) isn't a priority, & indefinitely postpones the Bilateral Consultant Commission meeting.

    I very sincerely hope this didn't catch the US by surprise.
     
  11. rogue49

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  12. rogue49

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    'Unheard of': Ret. US Army Major reacts to drone strike in Russian airfield — CNN

    This may be a game changer…

    1. Projection of power by Ukraine
    2. Lack of defense by Russia
    3. The ability to hit military targets
    4. The ability to hit infrastructure and civilian to destroy morale
    5. Shows that Russia is vulnerable to its citizens, potentially triggering chaos and rebellion
    6. Alters the improv capabilities of drone warfare, either making them quickly sophisticated or used like an IED
    And so much more…
     
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  13. rogue49

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    Brittney Griner released by Russia in prisoner swap for arms dealer — CBS News

    No use being an asshole unless you can prove it.
    And Russia is definitely an asshole these days.

    And America is a fool
    To trade a celebrity/athlete for a terrorist???
    “The Merchant of Death”?
    A close partner and friend of Putin?

    Sorry, I have empathy for her and her family
    BUT we’ve now got an instigator for mass murder free again.
    And in the hands of Putin where he can quickly become effective again and have tons of resources.

    To be brutal, I hope the US tagged the guy
    And did a little Manchurian Candidate stuff before sending him back
    Make him a double agent
    We had him for 10 years…

    * yes, the US can do this crap too
    We’re not saintly

    IMHO, being ruthless while being ethically questionable could be something to leverage

    This is what those movies are made about
    Although exaggeration from Hollywood, it is real
    And used by many countries
    C’est la guerre
     
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  14. Chris Noyb

    Chris Noyb Get in, buckle up, hang on, & be quiet.

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    I have empathy for Griner, her family, & friends...

    But she is an adult woman who chose to play for pay in Russia, & has never denied the drug charges. I think most strict laws against minor marijuana possession are ridiculous, but if you're traveling to Russia, & you have experience living there, you should definitely know what the laws are.

    I don't like Russia making an example of her because she's a US citizen, but she chose to work in Russia.


    **********
    A rant: I can imagine what the media coverage, & the comments from more politicians & religious leaders, would've been if Griner were
    white,
    pretty, &
    heterosexual.
     
  15. Chris Noyb

    Chris Noyb Get in, buckle up, hang on, & be quiet.

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  16. Chris Noyb

    Chris Noyb Get in, buckle up, hang on, & be quiet.

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    Post 175 is my original post.

    Multi duplicate posts, need to be removed (posts 176 - 182).
     
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  17. rogue49

    rogue49 Tech Kung Fu Artist Staff Member

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    got it :D
    They must have REALLY started it. ;)
     
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  18. rogue49

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    Xi Jinping Doubles Down on His Putin Bet. ‘I Have a Similar Personality to Yours.’ — The Wall Street Journal

    Yes, they’re partnering.
    Problem is this…both ARE alike, ruthless and manipulating.

    So what happens when an unstoppable force meets a unmovable object???
    And vice versa at the same time.

    Sooner or later, this WILL fail.
    Either Russia or China will get into a mess it cannot get out of.

    Now that means perhaps War…or Nukes even.
    Russia isn’t powerful enough to truly hurt China
    China could possibly swallow up Russia or parts of it.

    I know Putin is desperate but he better be careful of Xi.
    And Xi is partnering with a losing horse
    Or one that bites back.

    This is a tenable situation at best.

    Frankly, the US and EU while opposition aren’t the real issue for both countries.
    The issue is themselves.
    Both are house of cards that may collapse.

    We’ll see.
     
  19. Chris Noyb

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    This reminds me of two alpha males tying to work together. Sometimes they will find away to get along by feeding each others ego. Most times the result is an ongoing battle of one upmanship.

    Russia has been exposed as being vulnerable. If Ukraine can make Russia look bad, China wouldn't (shouldn't) have any real problems expanding parts of its Northern border.
     
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  20. rogue49

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    Russian sausage tycoon Pavel Antov dies in Indian hotel fall

    Well, that's another way of interpreting, "Trickle Down Economics"... :confused:
    Fall down
    Something trickling
    and the $$$ certainly gets redistributed...

    But being a billionaire from Russia certain doesn't have a good retirement plan. :eek:
    (and there have quite a few "retired")
     
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