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Discussion in 'Tilted Philosophy, Politics, and Economics' started by genuinemommy, Jul 12, 2016.

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  1. Baraka_Guru

    Baraka_Guru Möderätor Staff Member

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    Here is the quote with more context:
    Here is a statement from the "UN Security Council Resolution 1325: Women, Peace, and Security":
    Remember, most of these women are non-combatants, and men generally perpetuate war more than women do.
     
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  2. wye

    wye Getting Tilted

    For the sake of being fair and balanced, here are some things that the Republican presidential nominee has said about women:

    “Women have one of the great acts of all time. The smart ones act very feminine and needy, but inside they are real killers."

    "You have to treat [women] like shit."

    "You know, it doesn't really matter what [the media] write as long as you've got a young and beautiful piece of ass."

    “All of the women on The Apprentice flirted with me — consciously or unconsciously."
     
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  3. Knight Templar

    Knight Templar Holy Warrior

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  4. Baraka_Guru

    Baraka_Guru Möderätor Staff Member

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  5. wye

    wye Getting Tilted

    Not only that, but the accusation of Donald Drumpf as a pathological liar was championed by Ted Cruz a few months ago, making this yet another instance of a reasonable accusation against the xenophobic egomaniac nonsensically turned around in attempt to use it against his opponents.



    I can do a comparison with the opposition on this point too!

    Which candidate is more like a criminal?

    Hillary Clinton: None of the numerous investigations and witch hunts from Whitewater and Travelgate to Benghazi and Emailgate concluded that she committed wrongdoing as would be necessary to indict her (much less convict her) of any crimes.

    The Angry Orange: Convicted in a federal court in 1991 of conspiring to avoid paying pension and welfare fund contributions after hiring 200 undocumented immigrants in the construction of Trump Tower. Charged, found guilty, and fined by NY and NJ multiple times for violating casino regulations between 1990 and 2000. Currently the subject of a class action lawsuit after his modeling agency broke federal immigration law by underpaying models on H-1B visas. Currently the subject of three lawsuits on charges of fraud against Trump University. Has had dozens of tax liens imposed on his companies for nonpayment of taxes. Has settled with plaintiffs in countless cases after being indicted on charges including housing discrimination, defamation, fraud, sexual harassment, and breach of contract.
     
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  6. Knight Templar

    Knight Templar Holy Warrior

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  7. Knight Templar

    Knight Templar Holy Warrior

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  8. redravin

    redravin Cynical Optimist Donor

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    Only if you need to hunt for food.
     
  9. wye

    wye Getting Tilted

    Even then it's questionable. Shooting is hardly a humane method of animal slaughter.

    And scenarios where you think you need a gun to defend against an active shooter? You don't. According to the 2014 FBI report Study of Active Shooter Incidents in the US between 2000 and 2013, 13% of the 160 identified incidents ended when an unarmed citizen restrained the shooter, while only 3% were ended after armed citizens exchanged gunfire with the shooters.
     
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  10. genuinemommy

    genuinemommy Moderator Staff Member

    Unless you are suicidal, or you live in a home with children.
     
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  11. redravin

    redravin Cynical Optimist Donor

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    It's only inhumane if you don't know what the fuck you are doing.
    A good hunter with a properly aimed bullet can be just as (if not more, I've seen the footage of how horrible those places can be) humane as a slaughter house.
     
  12. wye

    wye Getting Tilted

    Shooting game in the head can be humane slaughter--at least by how the US Humane Slaughter Act defines it--as long as it rapidly and effectively renders an animal insensitive to pain. But I will defend that shooting game is hardly a humane method overall because it is not nearly as certain to rapidly and effectively render an animal insensitive to pain as are other methods, such as electronarcosis. And a properly aimed bullet doesn't factor in at all when downing birds with shot.
     
  13. Borla

    Borla Moderator Staff Member

    If anyone thinks ethical hunting is inhumane, and they are not a pure vegan who sticks to it, I dismiss them as being an ignorant hypocrite.

    I've been in and outside slaughterhouses and commercial facilities for other animal products. What most of those animals go through is epically worse than any animal I've ever killed in my entire career as a hunter.

    Most every hunter I know is far more concerned with a quick kill and ethical harvest. Yes, there are idiots and outliers to that, as there is with everything. They are the tiny minority, most hunters care far more about the environment and animal life than the average person. Please don't go eat a McDonald's cheeseburger and then tell me hunting is cruel.
     
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  14. Knight Templar

    Knight Templar Holy Warrior

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  15. genuinemommy

    genuinemommy Moderator Staff Member

    So you don't enjoy chatting with bartenders?
    When a woman joins a conversation with a group of men at a party, and one of those men asks said woman to go get him a beer (instead of welcoming her into the conversation), that is disrespectful. I mention this here because it happens, often, and it's viewed as demeaning. The men who do it seem utterly clueless.
     
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  16. Baraka_Guru

    Baraka_Guru Möderätor Staff Member

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    Humane slaughter is an oxymoron. Pick a different adjective.
     
  17. wye

    wye Getting Tilted

    Slaughter can be carried out in a humane way (by a legal definition of "humane slaughter" such as that put forth by the US Humane Methods of Livestock Slaughter Act) by slaughterhouses and hunters alike. To convincingly argue that eating game is more ethical than eating livestock because the proportion of hunters that carry out humane slaughter is greater than the proportion of slaughterhouses that do, you ought to cite statistical data from animal welfare research that supports this claim.

    Additionally, "tu quoque" arguments do not logically invalidate arguments presented by other people, be they hypocritical or otherwise. Such people may appear insincere or unsympathetic, but I nevertheless recommend judging the merit of any arguments independently of any judgements of the people presenting them.

    Yes, this graphic conveys a sentiment that is rather selfish and quite unkindly. What's more, it seems distant from the subject of this thread.
     
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  18. Borla

    Borla Moderator Staff Member

    Fortunately I don't feel the burden to convince an argumentative stranger on the Internet. That may be my super power. :D
     
  19. redux

    redux Very Tilted

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    I still dont understand why anyone would need a semi-automatic rifle with a high capacity magazine to hunt.

    Doesnt sound very sporting, particularly given that the intended prey cant shoot back.
     
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  20. Knight Templar

    Knight Templar Holy Warrior

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