Occupy Wall Street

gee, eddie, while you're wasting your time looking for material to make your usual intellectually dishonest posts, it appears that there's a bill up before the senate to effectively suspend habeas corpus

http://www.aclu.org/blog/national-s...rican-citizens-battlefield-they-define-being/

and this less than a week after the pentagon declared the war on terror functionally over. except that the conservative welfare state benefits from that not being the case. so it isn't the case.

but hey, i'm sure that in libertarian-land, this would be all good because it'd only imprison without charge or trial people who don't like. because you stand by the constitution and all that.

 

Oh and the growing income inequality, where the US is ranked closer to Iran, Russia and many Africa countries than it is to Western Europe and Japan.

 

I'm not an over-enthusiastic consumer and have never indulged in Black Friday. I find those who pepper-spray and trample others to the ground in hopes of getting a bargain, to be mindless sheep. Blind in a similar sort of way to that other portion of the 99% who are too stupid to realize that Ron Paul is not their savior.

 

I think that the a lot of the domestic media in the US force feeds us shit and then pats itself on the back and says "We're just giving you what you want. It's your fault." Maybe it's true. I guess more people vote for American Idol than for American President. But maybe that's just because it's actually a lot fucking easier to vote for American Idol. You don't even have to leave your house or take a half-day at work or fuck with your dinner plans. Or maybe it's because the average person understands that at the end of the day, the political process is one that isn't responsive to their needs and so they don't bother paying attention to the constant parade of similar looking assholes with different names but the same empty "you can trust me, I care about your concerns" platitudes. I think that frequently people start paying attention to politics as a response to not feeling comfortable in their day to day lives, which unfortunately means that pretty much everyone who cares about politics is insecure. It's hard to have difficult, honest, productive discussions when people aren't feeling secure.

roachboy,

I do try to read Greenwald regularly. I appreciate his nonpartisan approach media criticism and the fact that he's not an Obama apologist.

 

I was just looking at those TIME covers again. Only just noticed that it is only the USA version that has the "buy this cover" option.

Not sure of the relevance, but interesting, nevertheless.

 

Most people who support Ron Paul are God fearing folks who already have a savior in Jesus. We're not looking for a savior, just a leader who isn't afraid to stand up to the liberal, socialist hordes that are trying to topple this once great Republic.
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That bill is unconstitutional as it eliminates due process and a right to trial.

 

Any person who believes in God and understands His power can't help but to fear Him and His judgement. And yes, Ron Paul believes Jesus is his savior.
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I'm talking about the people who voted for Obama...and a few Repubs too.

 

I've come to the conclusion "Black Friday" is over rated hype. The TRUE sales are the day AFTER Christmas when they are getting rid of excess to make room for the Spring lines. But yes, they overhype the sales for black Friday to guage what Christmas sales will be like (since it can make or break a company's yearly profit margin).

And speaking of profit margin, I have always though when someone advertises 50+% off, they must have 1 hellacious marup to begin with because taking 50+% off something and still wanting to make profit, You have to be charging a 60+% markup before the sale.

I know this is off topic, but I saw this post and wanted to add this, while I was thinking about it.

 

eddie? are you saying socialists cannot be christians? are you saying Obama is not a christian?

 

The term "christian" is meaningless and it's a label I consciously avoid using. Everyone from mormon, to catholic, to episcopal, to russian orthodox to baptist call themselves "christian." And they're all totally different. I don't use a label to describe what I believe...I just tell people what I believe.

But to attempt to answer you question...I think most socialists and liberals are either closet "christians" or atheists, including Obama.

 

so what, eddie? who gives a fuck about which fictional god you believe in? what's the point of bringing that up? you in favor of some christian theocracy? what should happen to unbelievers?

 

On topic, regarding the TIME covers shown, it at first seemed to me like a version of "They Live" where we have the glasses on and can see what the aliens are doing.

Amazing stuff, rest of the world gets to hear about the revolutions and we hear what was it, anxiety can be good?

Amazing and scary. They could have put on OWS but they want to placate the .1% by trying to convince the masses that life is ok and those anxieties over paying the bills and s on that we should NOT be having are ok. Much like they do with "depression" they want everyone to believe they have it so they can overmedicate and control. It's sad. I could see extremists wanting to push that to control a population, but when it is supposedly the middle or moderate position, it becomes scary.

I guess then, I am way out there when I say I believe we over medicate and put too much emphasis on negative emotions. Yes, I want to be happy 24/7 but it ain't happening. In real life we have downs and in betweens so that we can appreciate the natural ups. Medicating to get "up" so we don't have to feel "down" or "bored" has a term drug addiction. We prescribe Zoloft, Prozac, Benzos, Celebra and other "anti-depressants like candy, so that we can explain away people's problems with their finances and jobs and stress at home over money as "depression" and give them a cute little named pill to take. We may as well prescribe marijuana, cocaine and opium to these people. Thay all accomplish the same things BUT the Pharms and the .1% that own the Pharms make no money off prescription weed or cocaine. they do on opiates though just ask those getting pharm grade heroin in a pill called Oxycontin (a continual release of a VERY high dose of Oxycodone).

But what do I know?

 

I was responding to jonie's post about ron paul being a savior. Please try to follow along a little better.
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Interestingly enough, I think socialism, communism and fascism erupted as a result of godlessness. When you don't believe in a loving God who has promised to provide for and protect you...well naturally you're going to look to your government to fill those needs.

 

eddie, dear, do try not to condescend to me. you're an amateur. you don't want to get into this kind of tangle. believe that. you have consistently made this fucked-up distinction between "real americans" and "the horde"--but you don't have to spine to own it's implications. why is that?

 

lol. I'm shaking in my boots.

Yes, I have referred to the liberal horde. What of it?

 

Really Eddie? Because you quoted ring's comments-

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There's the meat of the nut, outed from the shell game you've been playin' at.

 

I'm a bit puzzled by the "Christian" thing. As I see it, politicians in the USA struggle to get elected without wearing religion on their sleeves (odd, to us, because it's a political drawback over here). Given that situation, aren't the current crop of politicians in place as "Christians" already? And aren't these the same people everybody thinks are failing? If so, why is there stil any focus on a person's professed religion? Isn't their manifesto a lot more interesting?

Actually, I'm more than puzzled. I'm alarmed by the tie-in between extreme right wing politics and religion. Some of what is coming out is scarily reminiscent of some of the evils we faced in the last century. Ironically, it also seems as far removed from the teachings of Jesus as possible.

 

typically, libertarians can route their nutty belief in ideal free markets through some god-fiction by way of the invisible hand conceit. it fits with the ludicrous notion of american exceptionalism--that some libertarian god smiles with particular light on his chosen people. the idiocy of this is patent, but it's a reassuring fable that fits into the normative claims about "free markets" in ways that make reality entirely secondary.