Politics Obama - Actually doing a good job?

BTW...for your reading pleasure.
Chart: Almost Every Obama Conspiracy Theory Ever

Enjoy.

 

That's dizzying.

Did G. W. Bush or any other presidents have as many as that?

 

I didn't want to say it at first, but I actually came back here to post this: Fear of a Black President - Ta-Nehisi Coates - The Atlantic

 

FYI
From Politifact
Link - Has President Obama kept his campaign promises?

Fairly decent percentages...especially when you compare them with the GOP promise tracker.

 

Obama cut lose from the contraints of elections.

You think he will play it differently?
I personally don't think so...he's always played the long-game...so it's basically re-enforcing the policies he's done before.

Basically his whole campaign's premise was "let me finish...don't go back"

If you take a look at Politifact's Obamameter, he'll likely try to re-try or finally push through some of those that he wanted in the first place.

I predict he'll reduce the amount of prosecutions and efforts towards Pot...having the ATF and FBI going after harder drugs,
if not reduce the Drug War significantly...until Congress can pass some more flexible and progressive laws on it.

What do you think he'll work on??

 

As interest...and your viewing pleasure.
Headlines from around the world on Obama's election success.

World reaction

 

I wonder if anyone has figured out that one of Obama's cards in his pocket...is to allow the deadline to come and go???
See, if Obama doesn't get what he wants...then tax-breaks expire...and the 1st sequestrian occurs.

Then, so what in it for him???
- He gets more revenue, the rich get hit more.
- He gets to make significant cuts...all at his discretion. (BTW, they've already planned for this for some time...) Less spending.
- The deficit and debt goes down big-time on his 2nd watch.
- And for the most part, he gets to blame the GOP and the gridlock in DC.

There's a reason the GOP leaders are ready to play now...
let's see if they're smart enough to not fall into the trap and actually get things done.

 

I don't think it's clear at all. It really depends on the details.

Economic growth will occur regardless of the suggested tax changes. Growth occurred in the '80s even after TEFRA was enacted (in both GDP and tax revenue). You could say that it more or less cancelled out much of what ERTA was for, but isn't that what today's tax issue is about? Putting back what was taken away? Letting the Bush tax cuts expire on the rich at least?

I think we need to learn more about Obama's new tack on the issue. The second term will be a different game than the first.

 

And now the Eurozone is in another recession: Recession now, stagnation in 2013 for euro zone| Reuters

A fine job the European austerity has done.

Maybe Obama and his economic team will learn the hard lesson here. There's no sense in increasing taxes on the middle class (i.e., something similar to increases in consumption and sin taxes in battered Greece), nor is there any sense in drastic cuts to public spending, especially those cuts that disproportionally affect the lower and middle class.

You take the bottom out of the lower and middle class, and you take the bottom out of the economy.

 

This is the way I see it going the next 4 years.

• Obama and the GOP still won't get along, however this time instead of Obama blinking, the GOP will be blamed for fiascos.
• Obama is waiting for the GOP to explode the talks, taxes will go up, he cuts at his discretion, debt goes down.
• Obama will continue to increase the efficiencies of the government, which I've noted being pushed from the inside
• Obama will start to invest in infrastructure, after the explosion, Congress over-compensates by agreeing to spending, his discretion.
• The economy will go up, because the public is more comfortable, the corporate management has finally has to get real results.
• The economy will go up, because of the new energy resources available to us.
• Obama will remove many subsidies to corporations and funding to other nations...including NATO.
• China, Japan and Europe will have difficulties, re-enforcing the US dollar as a stable money.
• Employment will go up, because businesses have finally reached the bottom of the productivity barrel, even now it's expanding more.
• The current Supreme Court will continue to whittle away on safety acts and measures, in the essense of conservative values
• The Supreme Court will change unexpectedly somehow, leaving a more centrist or liberal court by the end of term.
• Debt will go down, due to the better use of medical practices and re-organized military structure and draw-down of wars and actions
  and increased revenue...

This will now be a time of change, not just status-quo for economic safety.
Question is, how much chaos will be in the mix.

 

The Reagan tax cuts in his first year had a pretty big hit on revenues, which is why they passed legislation to generate more revenue the following year.

Again, it really matters how the taxes are managed. A straight-out argument that taxing the rich doesn't work isn't a very good one at all.

This doesn't speak to my point. You suggested that tax changes would prevent increased economic growth. This isn't necessarily true. It may be true if taxes go up across the board, but I don't think Obama is trying to sell that.

Taxes aren't the be-all and end-all of economic growth.

The conditions aren't all the same. Obama's election to a second term is going to have an impact. American voters are at worst split on how they want leaders to handle the economy. Republicans thought their platform was the only way to go. They were wrong.

To say conditions are the same is to miss the more nuanced aspects of politics, if not he overt impact of retaining power despite your critics' worst attacks.