Legalizing same-sex marriage: Domino effect?

Here's a picture of me making announcements:

 

Here was the first couple to get a marriage license today -- the first of 74.

 

Over. The. Moon.

 

The Michigan Attorney General has obtained (from the Court of Appeals) a stay of Judge Friedman's ruling. That means the prohibition on same-sex marriage springs back into effect.

However, the stay is time-limited, and expires in a few days, on Wednesday, March 26. I expect the stay will be vigorously opposed by the plaintiffs.

 

Not surprising, but irritating nonetheless.

 

You basically posted what I was going to, and Street Pattern finished it up. People mistake marriage for being about love - generally, it's not. It's a financial agreement designed to create a structure to ensure support of family elements. Or it can be religiously oriented, but the function is essentially the same, but simply using social pressure, moral obligations, and tradition to hold the marriage and family support structure together. Marriage certainly can be about love - and most good, lasting marriages involve love, but love is most certainly not a necessary component in the binding legal contract of marriage.

Marriage 2.0, where we stand right now... I think it's going to change a lot within the next couple of decades, and drastically over the span of our lives. This is because with changing gender roles, women's independence and suffrage, the sweeping wave of same-sex marriage, and the changing social views and motivations of the newer generations, the old Marriage 2.0 framework just doesn't work in the new social environment - it's basically tricking young, modern people into getting cemented into this 1950's-esque caste arrangement designed for conservative people with strict traditional values that the newer generations just don't fit into. Their mindset is so much more fluid and dynamic, and Marriage 2.0 and its broken court systems and archaic, irrelevant assumptions about who is supposed to be the bread-winner and who is supposed to support who, is more like a restricting cage for their flexible modern brains - and from what I've read, it sounds like it breaks a lot more lives than it helps or maintains.

I wonder what Marriage 3.0 will be like?

 

Thank you. I thought that was one of the best posts I have written on TFP.

(Saying this reminds me of what one of my law school professors said about a Supreme Court decision in a tax case: "This is the best opinion that Justice Blackmun has ever written. And the reason I'm so sure about this is that it's good.")

Yup.

 

Does anyone want to start taking bets which state is going to be the last to adopt same sex marriage?

 

No. There will be a federal court decision, perhaps by the Supreme Court, perhaps in the next few months, and all the remaining states will be flipped at once.

Read Judge Friedman's ruling. Prohibition on same-sex marriage is a clear violation of the requirement that states give equal protection of the laws to all persons within their jurisdiction.

The legal benefits of marriage are a classic case of the kind of "protection" that laws can provide to individuals.

 

Isn't it crazy to live in such a time? I mean there was Women's Suffrage long ago, and then quiet... And then the Civil Rights Movement in the 50's and 60's largely focusing on African American rights advancement and integration... Then decades of more-or-less quiet during the 70's and 80's (not counting the various waves of Feminism), and now, BAM! Mid-to-late 2000's to probably 2015 or 2018, the whole sexuality-centered revolution, encompassing all Les/Gay/Bi/Trans people!

There won't be a revolution like this again for decades I bet, and who will come after this? One might even ask, "Who's left after this?" But then again, after the Civil Rights Movement and racial equality thing, they probably thought the same thing - I mean who, back in that primitive time of extreme sexual conformity, if the suggestion of our current cultural revolution had been made, would even believe it? Who would have ever thought that the shameful, mentally sick, clearly psychologically perverted and pathologically broken deviant queers will start wanting to be recognized as people! Horrible! And besides, there aren't even very many of them, right? It's not like there are millions of them that have been living and functioning right under our noses for decades or centuries or anything! Haha... If only they knew then what we know now.

I don't have a clue what will come next, but I think few will see it coming.

The dude in my avatar, if you're not savvy to the series, is a pansexual from the 51st century where sexual preference is an afterthought, stereotypes and stereotypical behaviors based on sexuality are practically nonexistent, and everyone basically boffs whoever they want to boff without a second thought about their gender or being judged for it. Sounds like an amazing cultural setup to me, and I really hope we achieve it a little sooner than the 51st fucking century, for sure. My guess is more like 2025 or 2030 or so. Unless you live in the Great 'Murican South, of course.

 

Captain Jack is awesome.
But I suspect that even in the 51st century there will be very few people with his pansexual panache.

 

Seriously confused here.
I understand Michigan got a stay so no more marriages can be done until it's decided in federal court but how can the governor say that all the ceremonies that were performed are now null and void?
Did I miss something?
When they got married it was legal, they are legally married.
How can he do that?

Rick Snyder: Michigan Won't Recognize Same-Sex Marriages

 

He can't. But he can talk big to impress the Republican base.

 

Haha yeah, agreed and agreed... Sort of a special case there.