Legality of the US Declaration of Independence

omega · Mar 21, 2017

izz said: ↑

Yes. You're correct. Thank You. But it seems the context and point is missed.

George Washington used the Constitution to usurp power for unlawful tax collection and property theft. By taking oath under article II, he created a Presidential dictatorship. One needs to understand certain facts to understand the scheme.

There are 2 United States, 3 Offices of President and 2 Constitutions.

The "United States of America" refers to the 50 states respectively, while the "United States" refers to the federal government. The "Office of President" isn't "Office of the President of the United States" nor "Office of the President of the United States of America."

The controlling Office factors are the "Constitution" and "Articles of Confederation." Which document and under what article an oath is taken designates the Office. (The gold fringe on the flag is representative of the standing Presidents Office at any given time and has nothing to do with popular ignorant sovereign citizen theories of admiralty/maritime law, in court or otherwise.)

The Constitution of 1787 refers to “Constitution of the United States.” The other referred as "this Constitution." The "Office of President" has no tax power in it's controlling document.

Congress has, not executive. By taking oath under article II, Washington filled an Office reserved for an appointee by "Office of President," essentially killing "this Constitution."

That Constitution specifically allows Office of the President of the United States of America to be elected through Electoral College. He can then take oath under Article VI “to support this Constitution” and fill "Office of President of the United States of America" under the Articles of Confederation and "Office of President" under Article II Section 1 Clause 5.

But nothing in 1787 oaths are binding. Until "Office of President" is properly filled, "this Constitution" does not bind. The other 2 Offices can abuse power without fear of treason charges, as one bound by oath could not.

The Declaration of Independance was meant to prevent what these schemes accomplish (e.g. eliminating British monarchy) But the "D of I" is not a legal document, so it holds no power of law. The idea was great for common people, but the English Colonel of British armies, with his British masonic cronies, destroyed the nobel notions of it's intent.

The Constitution was methodically drafted in secret with carefully planned intentions designed to confuse and use illusions of rights and freedoms.

"We the People" is not you and I. The Constitutional rights of "We the People" are for the government. Next time (or if) you get a traffic summons, it reads... "The People vs Your Name." We have taken the burdens of others without consent or knowledge and pay extra for it.

Corporate tax requirements were shifted on us, and they now pay nothing. We pay everything because they run everything. The United States is a corporation. The people, as you point out, who don't pay taxes, are likely invested in US corporate trusts. Their taxes also shift to us. If someone took the time to actually do numbers, things wouldn't add up. The amount of tax generated is probably 10 to 30x more than what's claimed. Maybe even more.

This, in my mind, is why the "debt clock" moves like it does 24/7. You can see it online. Someone's on a shopping spree, having a grand time on us.
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Great. A so called "sovereign citizen" has found us. Why don't you talk about maritime code and contract code while you are at it? Don't forget about how the physical body is different from the legal body that is controlled by your government tracking number. I.E. your social security number. And then finish off with some illuminati, bilderberg, and Bohemian Grove stuff while also covering the Catholic church's influence. Like the Indian maiden on the Capitol dome is a stand in for the Virgin Mary and the axes and bundles of rods are symbolic of the (Roman) catholic church.

redravin · Mar 21, 2017

Not to insult you @izz, my friend but I recognize some of your argument as being from the Posse Comitatus playbook.
It really doesn't work for them, I promise.
There is years of jurisprudence to back up our federal government and splitting hairs about what the words mean is pretty silly.

cynthetiq · Mar 22, 2017

omega said: ↑

Great. A so called "sovereign citizen" has found us. Why don't you talk about maritime code and contract code while you are at it? Don't forget about how the physical body is different from the legal body that is controlled by your government tracking number. I.E. your social security number. And then finish off with some illuminati, bilderberg, and Bohemian Grove stuff while also covering the Catholic church's influence. Like the Indian maiden on the Capitol dome is a stand in for the Virgin Mary and the axes and bundles of rods are symbolic of the (Roman) catholic church.
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I can't remember the name of the sovereign citizen I used to read and listen to in the late 90s. Hailed from Texas I recall. He had some good recorded speeches but at the end a foundation of logical fallacy is still a logical fallacy.

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