Kid sleeping in the room. Get it on?

Poetry,

We're not talking about elephants or donkeys, we're talking about people.

Here in "all these silly rules" America, sex is supposed to be a private act.

Right or wrong, that's just the way it is. We even have laws to back it up.

As "liberated" as you are, I'm sure even you have a little nugget of modesty.

 

It's not against the law to have sex while your child is sleeping in the same room.
Back in the 'old days' before we were all indulged in privileges such as 'separate bedrooms,' parents had sex in the same room as their children while they were sleeping. Much of the US was populated in such a manner.

I would have sex, quietly, in a room with my sleeping four year old and not think a thing about it.

 

Cracking up?

That reminds me.

I got pooched up my crack. My first girlfriend's blind poodle
Late night, late-adolescent missionary position, then suddenly I'm also a recieving bestialist.

I wanted to make a good impression on my girlfriend, both as a lover and as a not shout-at-her-doggy person.
And I succeeded, for the next five minutes until culmination ... for all three of us.

Oh God.

Some things can never be unfelt.

 

Zen that was hilarious.

And yes I would have sex while my child slept on the bed. No biggie.

 

are you suggesting that its ok to have sex in front of family? maybe even strangers? or even strangers' kids?

i dont think the parents here would approve of me having sex in front of their kids, so why should it be ok if i did it in front of mine?

So whats the problem with preserving the the age of innocence until kids have the ability to comprehend sex. I could swear i read somewhere that kids that were exposed to porn/sex at an early age had a higher incidence of becoming sexual predators at a later age.

 

I think you missed my point entirely.

I was speaking on the social construction of sex mores in a first world Western civilization. And, man, I don't want to go into this because I'm pretty sure it's pointless, but I am anyhow. So, example time...

In California, the age of consent is 18. If you're over that age by two or more years, boning anything below that makes you a creeper to various degrees and subject to social stigma.

However, in over half of the states in the U.S., the age of consent is 16. Suddenly not a creeper to be 21 and banging a 17 year old. Normal. Happy. Good for you.

Now, if you look at this map below...




Mexico, less than 150 miles from my current residence (where the age of consent is, I remind, 18), has an age of consent of less than 12. And, by my tired counting, eight or so other countries where the age of consent is 13.

So I can take a two hour drive south of here and legally bang a 12 year old with no judgement or repercussions by Mexican citizens. Because, hey, they've determined that 12 is an okay age to start with the banging.

This "age of consent" rule is a construct based upon whatever factors weigh heaviest on the minds of the people who make them. Apparently, in Mexico, if someone's entering puberty, that means their body is okay to have sex because it's preparing itself for sex, so why should they stop the course of nature by placing limits? Or whatever. I'm just coming up with potential reasonings.

There is little other than moral judgments (that tend to stem from religion) or historical events that engineer our sexual mores. I recognize this, and I'm mildly surprised you don't.


Now, coming back to the particular more at hand, if I happen to somehow ever wind up having a child, will I do my best to make sure that they don't witness my partner and myself having sex? Yes. That would go against my own, personal, thought-out code of ethics. Also, being in a society that freaks out any time something sexual in nature comes into play, I would attempt to raise my child in the same way that others would raise theirs in order to make their socializing easier. Just because I have a different value system, or a different way of arriving at a similar value system, does not mean I should use my child as some "example" of how I think things "should be".

Is it modesty? No.

Do I have modesty? When needed.

Am I "liberated"? Not particularly. I still follow the majority of the social rules set in place around me because that's what one has to do to continue being an accepted --and therefore functioning-- member of society.
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Please see my above response to answer the first two sets of questions.

Also, define innocence, when the age should be, what defines a loss of innocence, what this "comprehension" would exactly entail, and why the age you selected is the appropriate one. And then get the rest of the board to agree on the number you selected. Honestly, that last one I can't imagine happening, but I would be interested in seeing your answers to the others.

And if I had a dollar for every conservative survey done absolutely, appallingly incorrectly, I'd probably be able to run for president and fund it by myself.



I hear video games cause violent outbursts, too.

 

ಠ_ಠ Some things can never be understood.

 

Please, because I don't agree with you?

If Little Johnny goes to school and tells his teacher that his parents fuck in front of him, I'm guessing it'll be brought up in sooner than later. I don't know where you were going with your "age of consent" argument but it has nothing to do with my point: witnessing sex acts. Pretty sure both of us deviated from the intent of this thread but I do appreciate your "pointless" rant and use of graphics. Don't burden yourself with debate, now.

Also:

Fuck Mexico. Just because their age of consent is plays-with-Barbies doesn't mean it is anywhere close to right.

Were you ready to fuck at that age, Poetry? Please, I cannot believe a woman is okay with that age.

Does anybody here with kids feel that 12 years of age is old enough for that kind of activity?

/crotchety old man that believes anything less than 16-17-18 is totally disgusting

 

I don't see how the age of consent is relevant. The kids aren't engaging in sex, just POTENTIALLY witnessing it. Really, at a certain level, the equivalent question is "is it ok to let your kid watch you poop?"

Back in the day, just after the sun and moon were formed and uncle phil had a full head of hair, when I was in college, I took a history seminar called "Medival Russian Peasant Family Life". As a 21 year-old whose spare time was completely occupied by schemes to get laid, I was introduced to the concept of one-room family housing - which, as it turns out, has been the norm for the vast majority of families throughout history. Kids that get married live with the family (different cultures send the either the son or daughter away to live with the spouse's family). In Russia, it was the daughter that went to live with her husband's family. And since houses are a pain to build, heat and maintain, everybody lived in the same house along with the animals - because barns are just houses for animals. These were typicially one-room, one story structures, although occassionally a prosperous family would have two rooms - one for the animals, one for the people. So, by necessity, newlyweds went at it in front of the family.

Personally, I credit the rise of suburbia for kids' lack of knowledge of what their parents are up to in the dark.

 

You know, all this talk about how grandpa and grandma used to fuck doggy style next to the fam in their one-room shack is great and all...

I'm wondering why we don't have fond memories of when grandma couldn't vote and when Toby, the black manservant, helped in the fields.

According the US Army Civil Affairs groups in Afghanistan, staying in school (thus not getting married and pregnant well before 16) is the single greatest factor contributing the rise of female power in said country. I guess we call that progress, too. What's up with the history lessons here?

So, I'm guessing people used to fuck in the one-room shack because they didn't have a choice. They also didn't have toothpaste.

Now that many of us with First World Problems have separate bedrooms and toothpaste, the rules have changed.

 

The husband and I would never have had sex at all if we stopped because kids were sleeping in the room, we did tend to meet on the landing a lot, and the bathroom, the kitchen lol

 

Well, here's the thing: If these people had a choice, do you think they would prefer to fuck in their own bedroom by themselves?

 

Don't know what some of the commentary in this thread is trying to say, but I do know I'm a little skeeved out by it.

I'm totally cool with 20-somethings fucking in the bedroom next to their sleeping infant. That's not the issue here.

Little squeamish about the 10 year old having to navigate around mommy/daddy doing anal to get to the 'frige.

 

Of course people would prefer privacy, but that's not always possible,
I think there are two arguments running here, the one where people think your having sex while your kids watch, and the other where exhausted privacy robbed parents are trying to catch a small moment of intimacy with each other.
Very young kids wouldn't know what you were doing, it is harder when they get to teenage years, you have the privacy but you still have to be quiet as now they actually know what your doing.

 

I don't know why this thread has become about wild doggy-style sex in front of ten year olds.
Oh wait, yes I do.

The thread is not about having sex with sleeping children in the same room as a matter of course. It's about doing it occasionally...such as on family vacations.
Everything else is just hyperbole.
And stupid.
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If you ever had parents, and I'm pretty certain most of us have, and you went on a family vacation and had to share a motel room with them, they probably had sex at least one night while you were sleeping.

Boo.

 

What can I say? I get the stupid-party started.

You know, I've been on big group trips to tiny beach houses where it was pretty obvious that every single couple in the room was fucking under their blankets at 2 AM. My girlfriend and I alone fucked under the blankets in the dark and in the bathroom because there wasn't anywhere else to go without getting all totally mosquito'd. I'm not trying to come off as some type of StrangeFamous sex prude, it's just that some here seem to be all "but it's natural" with the sex in front of their cognizant children using the bullet points from life on the farm in 1901 and this ridiculous talk about how the age of consent in the shithole of ultraviolence that is Mexico has anything to do parents having sex in 2012. Sorry for all the hyperbole; it's my thing.

 

It's almost as if your smart mouth says what my stupid brain thinks.

 

And I'm the dumbest motherfucker here... what does that tell you?