Internet Lunatics - RadFems, PUA's, MRA's, MGTOW's, etc.

Yep. Pretty sure you're misreading things here. You think that #YesAllWomen participants all believe that nothing bad ever happens to men? Because that's ridiculous. But I will grant you this: if I shared your delusion, I'd be pissed too. But I don't share your delusion here, so I'm all like "Oh, word? *sideways glance* That's cool."

You're so caught up in what you think #YesAllWomen participants were saying that you've lost touch with the reality of what was actually said. If someone had started a #IraqisDealWithTerrorismEveryDay hashtag during the aftermath of the Boston marathon bombing, people in Boston would have probably been pretty pissed, and probably with good reason, because it would be minimizing the very real suffering of Bostonites. This would be true regardless of whether or not the Bostonistas believed that no one else had ever suffered from terrorism. Bostones would be justifiably pissed even though Iraqis do indeed deal with terrorism much more often then Bostoners do.

 

Wow, @shadowex3. I think I know where I've gone wrong here. I have been trying to find common ground. You truly are only interested in being right.

I know from your point of view I appear to have the same problem but I can assure you that that isn't the case.

This is tiresome. Please continue to chase your tail, but know that if you are trying to win people to your point of view, you have, in this instance, failed.

Have a great day.

 

Bodkin I posted it for you in size 7, a different front, bolded, underlined, italicized, all capitals, and in three different colors. I don't know how much more obvious I can make it for you that what I think has nothing to do with this. I found #YesAllPeople AFTER it had started, and found tweets in it referring to why the women who started it did so. You're only humiliating yourself by attacking me over this, you may as well try to accuse me of starting the chicago fire.

You say I've lost touch with reality, but you're literally making post after post after post going on about me when the only connection I have to #YesAllpeople is having found it. It's not me you need to attack, it's the brave women who stood up to start #YesAllPeople knowing they would be abused and harassed for it.

But then again... you can't, can you? I don't think you can. It would contradict your worldview too much and I don't think you can handle that. I think you've been pushed so close to the brink that like Charlatan you've had to simply stop even pretending to be connected to anything in reality and just attack me over and over again, as if somehow attacking me will change what the women who started #YesAllPeople saw and did in response.

That's why you even keep rewriting the narrative to push the completely false claim that #YesAllPeople is somehow an attack on #YesAllWomen. Something that even just looking at them on twitter can prove is literally the exact opposite of the truth. You NEED #YesAllWomen to be the victim, you NEED #YesAllPeople to be a man's fault, you NEED me to be evil or ignorant. Because you just can't live in a world where #YesAllWomen was filling up with morally repugnant hate speech, women started #YesAllpeople in response, and #YesAllWomen started viciously abusing and attacking #YesAllPeople without provocation.

I think that's why you just can't let go of this obsession with going after me on this.

Let it go Bodkin. You can attack me all you want. You can say I imagined everything all you want, you can keep saying I'm delusional if that's what you need to hold your world together. It doesn't change anything about #YesAllWomen's morally repugnant actions, or #YesAllPeople being founded by women disgusted by those actions, because I had no connection to any of it.

 

Foamy.

 

Super foamy.

 

I think there is a very good chance that things would have been different if he had a girlfriend. And that is what I think is missing in the tens of thousands of comments on this story. What did he or someone like him need to do to get a girlfriend? Mental health treatment is one thing, but what Snowy suggested of teaching teens how to be in relationships is absolutely needed. And guys like me and him and a bunch of others need even more training.

I have tried to stay away from this story and the 'debate' around it. I'm not quite as crazy, but I am an older version of him. When you get an 11 on the sex number test posted a few days ago, but you look like the avatar OtherSyde has with shorter hair, it is hard to figure out why. I don't play video games, I don't watch sports, I don't smoke, I volunteer, I have a job, I'm in good shape, I have savings, I own a house, I have friends that are women (married), and I failed at on-line dating. I don't need to be the ultimate PUA, but you would think that there would be one single girl in almost 20 years of wanting to be in a relationship...

I read the "Your Princess Is In Another Castle" article, but when a high 90's percentage of guys have had sex by their mid 20's, it isn't so much "entitlement" as much as how can you be so unlucky. If there were 100 guys on a basketball court being picked for teams, you would be one of the last few left. I had an excuse when I was 22 that I was broke poor, had no job, and had 3 or 4 friends. But, it does get annoying when everything you do is to increase your desirability, but it gets you nowhere.

Things are not good for 20 or 30-something male virgins out there. And it really messes with your mental state. And that is what is scary to me. For my physical health, I am fine. My emotional health isn't anywhere near where it should be for how much success I've had since college.

I was going to make a thread last week about if a male virgin could ever be successful? Is it better to be a millionaire that gets no female attention, or someone living paycheck to paycheck who has a loving girlfriend? Or what is the point of working hard and doing well if it never leads to a relationship? This isn't "taking a break" from dating, this is never being exposed to anything dealing with relationship.

I'm not really sure why this became a trend because of this incident. Was he stalking girls? Gropping them? Date-raping them? I'm not saying it doesn't happen, but I want to see the data on football players, frat guys, artists, and other male groups too. For some reason I don't think too many virgin guys over 20 lose it by raping a woman. If you aren't going to ever forget your first time, that isn't the way you want it to happen...

He didn't rape anyone before going on this rampage (which I am kind of surprised at), but rape, one night stands, and prostitution aren't the same as a successful loving relationship. When you are competing against siblings and you want your parents to approve of who you are with, it can be tougher and the hook-up culture won't work. Raping or hitting women isn't the answer.

 

View: http://youtu.be/V2f-MZ2HRHQ

 

Relevant.


Mass media, we're soaking in it.

 

Jesus, this thread really mutated and went nuts after its humble, humorous beginnings...

 

Interesting article.

In the aftermath of the California killings, one issue no one talks about - The Globe and Mail

 

Me too - I'm almost certain of it, really. I mean his inability to escape his state of virginity or have a successful sexual relationship of any kind - which resulted in his extreme isolation and bitterness. If he'd had a sexual relationship, he would have been too busy blowing his load on her face to be blowing people away with his Glock. It was essentially his stated motivation. Sure, there were some other factors, but they were smaller in comparison. And yeah, maybe he was just nuts, and would eventually have gotten rich-guy control-freak syndrome and killed some girl, but I seriously doubt he'd have written a 140+ page manifesto and gone on some kind of psychotic grandiose large-scale killing spree.

If you looked like Jack Harkness, you would have a long line of pretty women and pretty men lining up to suck you off. Seriously. Of course, Rodgers was a pretty-boy with a BMW, but even those things couldn't compensate for his atrocious douche-bag personality. Honestly I can't say anything about your personality since I've not met or hung out with you and I won't make any assumptions (although you don't sound like a douche at all), but you can't be any more socially retarded than I am. Do you have trouble forging genuine connections with male friends as well? Not in a homo-erotic sense, just like, deeper more meaningful connections? Or is everything surface-level, lost-in-translation type stuff with you as far as human relations?
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Me too - I'm almost certain of it, really. I mean his inability to escape his state of virginity or have a successful sexual relationship of any kind - which resulted in his extreme isolation and bitterness. If he'd had a sexual relationship, he would have been too busy blowing his load on her face to be blowing people away with his Glock. It was essentially his stated motivation. Sure, there were some other factors, but they were smaller in comparison. And yeah, maybe he was just nuts, and would eventually have gotten rich-guy control-freak syndrome and killed some girl, but I seriously doubt he'd have written a 140+ page manifesto and gone on some kind of psychotic grandiose large-scale killing spree.

If you looked like Jack Harkness, you would have a long line of pretty women and pretty men lining up to suck you off. Seriously. Of course, Rodgers was a pretty-boy with a BMW, but even those things couldn't compensate for his atrocious douche-bag personality. Honestly I can't say anything about your personality since I've not met or hung out with you and I won't make any assumptions (although you don't sound like a douche at all), but you can't be any more socially retarded than I am. Do you have trouble forging genuine connections with male friends as well? Not in a homo-erotic sense or anything, just like, deeper more meaningful connections? Or is everything surface-level, lost-in-translation type stuff with you as far as human relations?

 

Sure it would have been great if he had a sex partner to relieve his tension.

I think this misses the larger point that wouldn't it be better if there wasn't this pressure to begin with? Why is there an expectation of a relationship to begin with?