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"I don't appreciate that kind of humor!"

Discussion in 'Tilted Life and Sexuality' started by Lindy, Feb 10, 2013.

  1. Freetofly

    Freetofly Diving deep into the abyss

    I think most logical people know when it's a joke and when it's not.

    Think about a stand up comedian telling their jokes and only one person laughs, yet they still carry on.
    I wouldn't worry about one person, but maybe a whole audience.
     
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  2. Lindy

    Lindy Moderator Staff Member

    Location:
    Nebraska
    Yeah, I overreacted, and it is to late to edit my original post, so I will change it here.

    Thanks for the Plan9ar wisdom and well deserved admonishment. I have learned a new word (sesquipedalian) which I must try to use a few times before I forget it.

    I did remember, from church confirmation class, Sexagesima Sunday, the second Sunday before Ash Wednesday, which we celebrated with an extended Sunday morning session of sex instead of going to church.:)
    Also sesquicentennial, which my alma mater, Emporia (Kansas) State University, is celebrating this year.
    You are so smart! I always appreciate the self effacing style of your posts, which let us know that you know that we know that you know that we know that you are actually much smarter than you want us to think that you know.:) Ya know?

    Consider your ego, if not your hot throbbing manhood, stroked.;)

    Moving on now...
     
  3. Manic

    Manic Getting Tilted

    Location:
    NYC
    Nah, my point was that were your joke actually funny, she would've walked away laughing. Chuckle worthy humor built upon taboo topics brought up in an inappropriate settings is, by definition, a dick move. You were a dick that night, you offended her, accept it already.

    I can live with that.

    Blah. The subtext of this thread, as the entirety of my sentence made clear, is the idea that others can('t) fairly determine what others should be offended by. My line about privileged white heteronormals proved all my points by exaggeration.

    Capice?

    Also, I'm pretty sure that suggesting "privileged white heteronormals" go suck a dick disqualifies me from being seriously considered as tight-assed, humorless or politically correct. Lindy, perhaps you're just not nearly as smart of clever as you believe yourself to be.
     
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  4. mixedmedia

    mixedmedia ...

    Location:
    Florida
    holy smokes. the smell of magnolia is killing me.
     
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  5. Zen

    Zen Very Tilted

    Location:
    London

    Possibly relevant. My early upbringing: from classification to tightassification

    In the beginning, I was about six years old, in the classroom. Among the pupils, there was an obvious Indian, obvious Chinaman, obvious Jew. I had my own distinguishing features. Spectacles. I remember my first experience of the Hebrew joke, along with 'why does dust in your eyes make you laugh?' ... 'because spec tickles'. These distinctions had equal weight ... all parts of the jokes were levelled. In The Beginning, we got to appreciate so much on its own merits. There were no sweeping spotlights ready to impose party lines from adult guard-towers.

    Then I was about seven or eight, and adults telling me "You must treat them like us". Thinking back, that phrase was the most devilish worm Eden-destroying apple from the Tree of Bollocks, rammed down my young throat - because, in the space of one phrase, we needed to do something differently in 0rder to be 'good'. It was a shit sandwich, a Trojan Injunction, because, surely, "Be nice to people." could not be bad. The 'bread' was good, but the filling? It THEMified what previously had been all US. I could not just be best friend to M'zumbah, I had to be a seven-years-old British Ambassador.

    There was no Golden Age. Believe me, Eden was a pit of ravening child-beasts. Pack-dominance, alphaizing, betaizing, cliques and outcasts were up and running, but it had been self-selecting. Pleasant or unpleasant it was about the personal skills and characteristics of people living in the room NOW. However, the externally imposed them-us filterdistracted us from our direct sensory experience of the people in the room. People were given intangible 'token' existence, which had to be taken into account too.

    Then I was in my late teens and early twenties. Heck. The popularity and public practice of talking to the individual through the token rather than face to face depleted the life force. We were left with guesswork and maps rather than with direct experience. It was a continuum with direct experience on one end, and 'by the map' on the other end. Most of us had been taught to favour the map. It was difficult to like or dislike purely on individual merits. It was OK to struggle with conscience .. or to be seen to be doing so. It was not OK to seem to be comfortable in oneself.


    Lindy , that person who got offended was stuck waay over on the side of 'by the map' ... that was louder, more vivid to her than the function of wittiness, tones of voice and expressions on faces in the context of utterance. And I reckon I can understand why you get stick for your decision to stand easy with what you did. You're supporting the existence of a world where people touch and taste directly, take personal responsibility for their language rather than through the false security of a fancy phrase book.
     
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  6. Plan9

    Plan9 Rock 'n Roll

    Location:
    Earth
    You're a goddamn genius and your whole response here is a smoke bomb of rambling poetry.

    /beer salute
     
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  7. Speed_Gibson

    Speed_Gibson Hacking the Gibson

    Location:
    Wolf 359
    The main thing that offends me is political correctness. I understand it to a point but too many people take to it the point where they need a gentle caress to the side of head from a brick. George Carlin's routine on euphemisms and soft language applies here perfectly.
     
  8. Plan9

    Plan9 Rock 'n Roll

    Location:
    Earth
    Speed_Gibson,

    How does political correctness go along with shitty race jokes? Aside from the obvious "Deerrrr!" answer, of course. Are you suggesting it's okay to be a racist?

    This whole situation was fail. Lindy failed by dropping that Cheeto-sized humor turd in the party punch bowl and Little Ms. Offended failed by acting offended at a joke that 10-year-old Louis Farrakhan wouldn't laugh at.

    I mean, it's frou-frou offensive to suggest that white people love mayonnaise and black people love watermelon and Asians can't operate motorvehicles. These aren't good jokes, either.

    Race politics are inescapable because we've given them so much power over our interactions. Everybody knows its stupid but it's still a no-no.

    Tarantino aside, let a white guy make a Jew joke or drop the N-bomb.

    *angry mob*
     
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  9. Speed_Gibson

    Speed_Gibson Hacking the Gibson

    Location:
    Wolf 359
    PC humour doesn't go with those kind of jokes.
    I was just going with what what offends me rather than even try to respond to those lengthy posts that I barely skimmed through if that.
    But to risk going vaguely ontopic here, the only kind of "racial humour" that I have found funny is Blazing Saddles where Mel Brooks uses it brilliantly to show the white town folk (and his character for that matter) as nothing but dumb ignorant hicks. That film works perfectly on so many levels and you know would never see the light of day today or if it did would be done horribly and crudely.
     
  10. Plan9

    Plan9 Rock 'n Roll

    Location:
    Earth
    BONUS:
    OH, SNAP!

    Nice.
     
  11. Speed_Gibson

    Speed_Gibson Hacking the Gibson

    Location:
    Wolf 359
    Reminds me of Wierd Al's White and Nerdy. Always cracks me up.
     
  12. Plan9

    Plan9 Rock 'n Roll

    Location:
    Earth
    I like the White Person Bingo, myself.
     
  13. Joniemack

    Joniemack Beta brainwaves in session

    Location:
    Reading, UK
    On another website community I belong to there's a joke thread. Some good, some awful, some straddling the line of PCism but nothing blatantly racist or bigoted or anti-semitic. I can't imagine anyone from any racial group happening upon the thread and becoming insulted.

    Until one day I saw a joke posted and it bent me a bit out of shape. It wasn't funny and I could have passed it by without a second thought if it wasn't for the comment that followed it, made by another member. First let me say that both the original poster of the joke and the follow up commentator don't exactly hide the fact they are racists and misogynists.

    This was the joke:

    Judge Judy to prostitute: "When did you realize you were raped?
    Prostitute (wiping away tears): "When the check bounced!"


    So okay, not the funniest joke in the world and I'm a bit ticked off knowing that this particular poster would probably never believe that a prostitute could be raped, but okay. Until the next post in response to it.

    "I think the guy stopped payment cause he didn't get his money's worth."


    I made it known to both of them that I found the joke offensive and explained to them why. In retrospect, it was probably because I was familiar with their opinions about women that I regarded it as offensive. What I was not prepared for a was a firestorm of support for the joke and the posters by men on the site who I truly thought would have supported my position.

    For the record, I do not find Lindy's joke to be at all offensive or in the least bit anti-semitic. A cute play on words I'd never heard before. Having an Irish heritage, I hear Irish jokes all the time, especially living here in the UK and some of them are downright hilarious so it's not like I can't laugh at myself but when a joke is at the expense of a segment of society which is discriminated against and denigrated (prostitutes) by those very people who would take advantage of them, my hackles go up.
     
  14. Plan9

    Plan9 Rock 'n Roll

    Location:
    Earth
    I love bad feminist humor.

    Oh shit, this isn't Post Secret.
     
  15. Joniemack

    Joniemack Beta brainwaves in session

    Location:
    Reading, UK
    Is prostitute humor the same as feminist humor?

    Maybe it is.
     
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  16. I would say that a prostitute is a bad feminist.
     
  17. mixedmedia

    mixedmedia ...

    Location:
    Florida
    That's not necessarily true.
     
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  18. Plan9

    Plan9 Rock 'n Roll

    Location:
    Earth
    Going along with the thread title...

    ...

    Feminist
    Any sentence with this word in it is a trap.

    ...​
     
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  19. mixedmedia

    mixedmedia ...

    Location:
    Florida
    You're right. It's about time you admitted it.
     
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  20. Plan9

    Plan9 Rock 'n Roll

    Location:
    Earth
    I don't appreciate your kind of seriousness.
     
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