females, feminists and femininity.

An interesting visual look at gender presentation, and how the perception of others can contribute: Artist Documents Her Experience Dressing More Feminine To Get A Job

 

I agree--although I did like a little winged eyeliner, but that might just be because I am going through a winged eyeliner phase.

 

Well, I came from a family of strong women...so my mind is women can do anything they put their mind to.

That being said, I'm a very lustful man who can't get enough of women. This I'm not going to apologize for.
And this does not contradict itself.

I've been fascinated with the concept of pro-sex or sex-positive feminism.
Because it represents the best of both worlds to me...strong women who enjoy their sexuality. (and openly at that too)

Now, at the same time...I'm not going to spend an ounce of judgement on ladies who do not want to have sex or prefer to be modest.
It's a free world, you can be who you want to be...and you can change your mind in split-second...and also go back & forth throughout your life.

One thing I don't understand are women who aren't comfortable with themselves when they ARE healthy and in shape for them. (not someone else's definition)
And those who conflict themselves with contradictory feelings that go against their own well-being.

I find that men tend to take themselves as they are physically more often...sure they will cater to things that are defined as "manly" or they are conflict with their social status on the ladder.
But ladies tend to be trying to alter themselves more, to be something else or more so.
And that often they are doing it for what women care about...not men. (not to say they don't cater to men's, it's just that it is not ONLY men)
Again, I do not care either way...but it is something I've noted.

I've also noted that women tend to exhibit themselves more so than men.
Again, not that I care about this. Actually I'm very enthusiastic about it. Hey, flaunt away.
But you do not see "Men gone Wild", you do not see men enhancing their bulge in the way cleavage is...or their legs. (actually the trend for men is to cover in layers, which I hate)

Not to say that women don't enjoy it, as I see at male strip clubs...but this is done at VERY specific places...and only VERY specific males...not in general.
Is this due to male restraint or concern? Or because women don't want to see it outside of these arenas? (aka social acceptance)
**Actually, I've tried this before in a public arena...women seem to like it, but BOY do men get pissed.**

But I'm curious as to whether this is a social, cultural, mental, emotional or genetic trait??
And why do some ladies enjoy the attention without guilt.
And why do some do it...then protest the attention they get? (or dislike themselves for doing it)

Men are fairly consistent with their desire to see women sexually, in all arenas. (even at work)
However women I find are titillated at specific times...and are turned off (eww) at other times.
Is this because of their own change in desires?
Or what they expect due to social expectations?

Again, I'm all for all-out feminism.
But it seems that women themselves are the ones restraining and/or exposing themselves...at times.

I would think feminism would be to be proud of what you are as a woman no matter your desire or look.
Why be who you aren't?

To me there shouldn't be any "Madonna/Whore" complex, because you can be Madonna & Whore at the same time. (not that I agree with the word "whore"...their word, not mine)
Be what you want, when you want.

I'm curious how the ladies look at this.
There seems to be an inherent conflict.

 

Well, I don't know about that...let's keep our anger to men to specific selfish men, rather than men in general.
I know many men that are respectful to women, perhaps some even overly so. (because there are selfish women out there too.)

But I meant in my statement about men viewing women as something to be desired...not as a slam. But it just is...a part of their nature. It is consistent.
Even I, as an open minded, respectful and interested in strong-females...still view women with desire, no matter the time or place. (and I know many men who are the same).
I still treat them equally and with discretion. But this doesn't stop the libido from wanting what it wants. You just learn to keep your place.

And I'm sure in many cases, women feel the same...but they do it differently. Theirs I've noted is more subtle and situational.

I'm just trying to figure out why.
And why is it so inconsistent. (or are you all just that much more in control?? or am I just fooling myself?)

I've been oogled before...and approached...etc. Just like the women on the board.
However, the trend is definitely much lower than they have experienced.
And would the men care if they did? Sure, but it depends...admired, yes they'd like it....used, definitely not.

It's like the scenes in "Horrible Bosses" with Jennifer Aniston as the aggressor.
Or the new spoof series of vids, called "The Flip Side" which reverses traditional roles. (great clip on reverse sexuality...much less the other clips)

As women gain in power and confidence...will they become just as consistent with their desires as men are?
Will women stop "enhancing" their looks? Or will men start exposing theirs more? (metrosexuals??)
Will women's gain produce "The Flip Side" in real life?
Or is the current status a part of their genes??

For example, in Rio Brazil, where women are more of the aggressor, it would be interesting.
Might be nice...but like anything, might produce unintended consequences. (good or ill)

I'd rather just everyone be comfortable with themselves.
And both sides just put it out there.

 

Here's an interesting piece from Forbes that talks about the use of the word "bitch" in the workplace: The Bitching Point - Forbes

I think assertive women who know what they want get called bitches far too often.

 

Ok, I'm probably stirring the hornets nest here...but the reason I used "anger" was because of this general statement.

I'm all for feminism...and the all-powerful female. You get your groove on.

However, I'm not going to let generalizations about the evils of men be thrown out too. Including sarcasm how we are essentially neanderthals.
Frankly, I do think men are changing and becoming more aware...and allowing women to become empowered. (even to the point they at times tred on us)

It's not even and it's not fair...nor will it be ever completely even for every situation...but it IS getting better.

I thought I handled that phrase lightly, didn't over-react...used one word in a complete phrase...perhaps I could have used "frustration"??
I see that "anger" is a trigger word.

Because I even didn't reply immediately back to MM's obvious irritation on the word. I wanted to let it lie. And not take away from the discussion.
However, there seemed to be a bit of a pile-on about those trigger words.

Hey, whatever...I know women who call themselves "bitch" proudly, empowering themselves. Call yourself "cunt", isn't that what one skit in the Vagina Monologues was about?
I don't care...enjoy who you are, take the world by storm. Kick ass, take names.
Be blunt, I prefer it.

But just remember, not ALL men are not misogynistic lazy ball scratching assholes. Some care, some are trying. And some you leap down their throats...

Now that I got that out of the way...keep on rockin' your female selves. Back to the topic about you.

'nuff said.