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Everybody Was Kung-Fu Fighting!

Discussion in 'General Discussions' started by EventHorizon, Jan 13, 2012.

  1. Alistair Eurotrash

    Location:
    Reading, UK
    Maybe, but it can be quite hard on the knees if you go with the more competitive clubs. Some clubs are more relaxed and gentle, though.

    I'm an "avoid it if at all possible" guy. However, there is always the chance that it isn't possible.
     
  2. Shadowex3

    Shadowex3 Very Tilted

    I didn't say being good at fighting made you a sociopath, I said the people are are genuinely good at winning fights in the real world tend to be sociopaths. Think about what the average person is more likely to run into on the street: Joe Gangbanger that glasses people in the face for looking at his girl, or an honest to god expert in actual martial arts and not easy-sparring-land Bullshido.
     
  3. Walt

    Walt Vertical

    He'll yeah, it would. But just FYI, judo doesn't have a belt system to denote rank/proficiency within the discipline. Rather, judo uses an elaborate system of outerwear that becomes progressively gayer as you advance.

    Beginner
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    Intermediate
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    Master
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  4. Plan9

    Plan9 Rock 'n Roll

    Location:
    Earth
    3rd Degree = 3rd Chin.
     
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  5. Remixer

    Remixer Middle Eastern Doofus

    Location:
    Frankfurt, Germany
    When a friend of mine got the Muay Thai Aussie eastcoast title a while ago, it served as a great catalyst for me to shed the excess fat I put on by stopping my workouts, doing work and going out only for the past 2-3 years.

    For now I'm doing two to three 45-minute sessions per day, whenever I manage to squeeze them inbetween work. I've cut down my social life a fair bit and have drastically changed my diet, and am keeping it that way until my fitness is in a position again where I feel like it's worthwhile to join a Muay Thai place and go back into sparring without having to worry whether I can last the entire 90- or 120-minute session.

    Knowing all the MT techniques simplifies things a lot, so I only practice the techniques again and again, and look to improve my combos. I also look to regain a lot of accuracy my arms and legs used to have.

    I found that having the right beat in the background really helps the pacing of solo training sessions. There's nothing to replace the mutual pushing you get from training with others, but it's a workable substitute.


    Very nice to see you're already into clinches. The only thing I hated about clinch practice was the dumbass wide stance instructors seem to love for it, making you lift your leg and do a wide sideways knee from the outside. Looks like two retarded kangaroos dancing with each other.

    If you're allowed to use double-clinch in sparring, really experiment with any angle you can find. Going for inside legs and destroying the thigh muscles is usually preferable over the midsection or even aiming towards the head.

    Also: Generally it's a good idea to work hard on leg-lifting speeds. Most places focus on technique and stamina, but don't go into improving the speed of singular movements. If you can up the ante and get your legs to lift very quickly (the training for that will hurt :D) you can quickly outshine your opponent by throwing single kicks/knees into sparring exchanges where otherwise it would not be feasible.


    The mob, bro.

    Godfather-style.
     
  6. Baraka_Guru

    Baraka_Guru Möderätor Staff Member

    Location:
    Toronto
    We aren't being instructed for a wide stance. Right now we're working on the clinch with a 180-degree pivot followed by a couple of knees and a push to disengage. We tend to work it in with our standard combos.

    We do mainly double neck clinches. We've sampled single leg clinches, but we mostly do the double neck. However, we're not given the option of experimenting. We're doing set drills at this point. This is all level 1 stuff. They do demonstrate these options to teach us about the flexibility of certain moves, but they tend to get us to practice the fundamentals at this point.

    I think my roundhouse kick is okay. Maybe not that fast, but we tend to focus on form first, then power at this stage. We do some speed drills occasionally though. My greatest weakness at the moment is the speed at which I retract the leg. It feels like deadweight after I've struck my target. I have long legs, which is a part of it. I can get a lot of leverage power and range, but speed on the backend tends to get compromised. At least I'm aware of it.

    My knee on the other hand....
     
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  7. Cayvmann

    Cayvmann Very Tilted


    Funny, but that dipstick is an Aikido master, not judo... A judo expert once made old Seegull crap his pants once. ( gene lebell )
     
  8. Remixer

    Remixer Middle Eastern Doofus

    Location:
    Frankfurt, Germany
    I see. Seems odd to go straight to incorporating the knee with standard combos and bypassing some, for beginners, much-needed double-clinch practice so that the students would first learn how to hold and move their body to give the knees better momentum. It should always be about building the physical foundations first and then developing the mental aspect, but I digress. :D

    Knees may seem pretty straighforward in their applications, but they are one of the most versatile tools you have available. Even grapplers are fond of using them on the ground where kicks are impossible. Let's see what your continued progress brings.

    By the way, is it possible to join your gym for a single day? I'd like to have a look around. :p

    That's a new one to me. Issues with retracting the leg are usually about people taking it easy or not thinking of the next exchange. Do you actually feel physically impeded from retracting the leg quickly, or is it more an issue with your stance as you initiate the kick in the first place? Do you have the same issue with more straight kicks such as front kick or side kick? Is it height-related, i.e. any difference between low, mid or high roundhouse kicks?

    If your speed issues persist after you have built your thigh muscles some and your mind is focused on completing each movement quickly and efficiently, I would have a proper talk with your instructor and have him/her look at your problem.

    MT movements need to be seamless. Other than your obvious slower speed, retracting the leg slowly will give you both balance and defense issues, leaving you open to a quick counter.
     
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  9. Baraka_Guru

    Baraka_Guru Möderätor Staff Member

    Location:
    Toronto
    It's based on some school/program's combos that all fit together in some kind of progression. We do one or two other clinch drills, so it isn't just that.

    Yes, you can do a drop-in to sample the class! :D

    I think it's mostly height related. I don't have the same problem with low roundhouse kicks. Well, the low kicks have this problem to a much lesser degree anyway. I think it's a balance issue with the higher kicks.

    When they can, they point these things out and will tell you to move quicker or do this or the other thing.

    They emphasize these things. They always bring the combos back to the context of sparring. People are always getting tapped when they let their guards down during combo drills, for example.
     
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  10. Stan

    Stan Resident Dumbass

    Location:
    Colorado
    I practiced judo from the age of 9 until 20 something. I was reasonably adept and took 2nd in the state with some reliability as a junior. The guy that could always beat me, later qualified for the olympics. I actually met my wife in judo class.

    I gave up judo because of my knees. Ground work just tore them up. Well, that and an increasing interest in women and alcohol. I can ski with a knee brace; but once I got to a fairly competitive level in judo, there was nothing I could do to protect my knees.

    News to me. I was Ikkyu working on Shodan when I gave it up. My wife has the same ranking.
     
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  11. EventHorizon

    EventHorizon assuredly the cause of the angry Economy..

    Location:
    FREEDOM!
    why is everyone jizzing themselves over krav maga these days
     
  12. Cayvmann

    Cayvmann Very Tilted

    ^^^ Just the latest fad "reality based" MA. Nothing really new, just sales pitch.
     
  13. rogue49

    rogue49 Tech Kung Fu Artist Staff Member

    Location:
    Baltimore/DC
    hmm...should I start American Kenpo back up again...or go full into Aikido?
    Decisions...decisions.

    Part of me likes the energy and full complement of American Kenpo,
    but the other part of me likes the discipline and different body impact of Aikido.

    I think it will get down to the semantics of the studio.
    Quality of teacher.
    Schedule of classes.
    Flexibility.
    And definitely one that isn't just a belt school or money hound.