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Discussion in 'Tilted Life and Sexuality' started by ralphie250, Mar 11, 2014.

  1. Chris Noyb

    Chris Noyb Get in, buckle up, hang on, & be quiet.

    Location:
    Large City, TX
    You're taking some great steps, Ralphie.

    Now the bad news (I'm not saying to avoid Chinese food, just be aware of what's in some of it).....
    A lot of Chinese food is cooked with large amounts of soy sauce, which is very high in sodium, and with MSG. There are debates over just how bad MSG really is, or really isn't. I try to avoid it regardless.
     
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  2. ralphie250

    ralphie250 Fully Erect

    Location:
    At work..
    Damn it........ lol
     
  3. Japchae

    Japchae Very Tilted

    Just get it without soy sauce, and add Bragg's at home!
     
  4. snowy

    snowy so kawaii Staff Member

    There are a lot of myths out there about MSG, in addition to fear mongering and misinformation. I will link some studies later, as I'm on Tapatalk.
     
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  5. snowy

    snowy so kawaii Staff Member

    They have the same amount of sodium.
     
  6. Japchae

    Japchae Very Tilted

    I get massive headaches from MSG, so I avoid most Chinese food. Seriously the same sodium content? Dang.
    At least I can control the amount when I add it at home. Of course, I'm not supposed to be eating soy anyway... Dang.
     
  7. Chris Noyb

    Chris Noyb Get in, buckle up, hang on, & be quiet.

    Location:
    Large City, TX
    I saw quite a few articles re MSG. Apparantly the early very negative reports have been debunked to a certain degree. My guess is MSG is like anything--Use in moderation. Foods heavy with MSG do give me headaches, they start quickly, are intense, but at least they don't last very long.

    We cook our Chinese dishes at home. No MSG at all, and the soy sauce is reduced sodium.

    A note to Ralphie--You can ask for no MSG at most restaurants, and don't let the possibility of soy sauce (not all dishes contain that much soy sauce) stop you from enjoying the veggies.
     
  8. snowy

    snowy so kawaii Staff Member

    The thing with MSG is that it is a single glutamate (the sodium salt); glutamates themselves are widespread in food, yet I rarely hear people complain about that. When you digest MSG, the sodium and the glutamate disassociate in the digestive tract, so it's not really any different than eating glutamate and salt together.

    Glutamates are all over the place. For example, anything with fermented soy is high in free glutamates. Japanese food is usually very high in free glutamates, yet Chinese food gets the bad rap. Take miso soup, for example. It uses a dashi as its base; the entire point of making dashi is to extract as much free glutamate from the ingredients as possible. Pretty much anything with any kind of umami is high in glutamates. Additionally, because of the backlash against MSG, many food manufacturers list what is essentially MSG under alternate names: hydrolyzed vegetable protein and hydrolyzed yeast are the two that are widely used but less obvious due to their names. Most others use glutamate in the name. "Natural flavor" can also be used to obscure MSG's presence in food, as the FDA does not require manufacturers to disclose what is in the "natural flavor." Other countries have labeling restrictions on food that bar the use of no MSG labeling if other glutamates are present.

    Oh, and if your favorite Japanese place uses instant dashi, well, then you're ingesting a ton of MSG in addition to glutamate. The main manufacturer of instant dashi is Ajinomoto--the company that created MSG (in fact, in Japan, they don't call it MSG, it's Ajinomoto). MSG is also widely used in pho to enhance the meaty flavor of the broth.

    Some articles and studies:
    http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/05/dining/05glute.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0
    Reconsidering the effects of monosodiu... [J Am Acad Nurse Pract. 2006] - PubMed - NCBI
    Monosodium glutamate ‘allergy’: menace or myth? - Williams - 2009 - Clinical & Experimental Allergy - Wiley Online Library
    The significance of excursions above... [Regul Toxicol Pharmacol. 1999] - PubMed - NCBI
    The safety evaluation of monosodium glutamate. [J Nutr. 2000] - PubMed - NCBI
    Reconsidering the effects of monosodiu... [J Am Acad Nurse Pract. 2006] - PubMed - NCBI
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    There's really no reason to ask for no MSG, unless you're sensitive to sodium (re: high blood pressure).
     
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  9. ralphie250

    ralphie250 Fully Erect

    Location:
    At work..
    Salt is my downfall. Although I have learned to manage it.




    For the last few days have been okay I eat my boiled eggs for breakfast my sandwich for lunch I have a snack of some sort of nuts and I try to eat something reasonably healthy for dinner. I'm trying to make a little steps it takes a lot of little steps to get to the end so I'm hoping it will work for me
     
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  10. Street Pattern

    Street Pattern Very Tilted

    You might want to weigh yourself every day. It's a biofeedback thing.

    If you graph it, you should also track the 7-day moving average, because day-to-day fluctuations can be huge.
     
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  11. Spiritsoar

    Spiritsoar Slightly Tilted

    Location:
    New York
    That's why I only weigh myself once a week, the day to day fluctuation can be discouraging.
     
  12. ralphie250

    ralphie250 Fully Erect

    Location:
    At work..
    Weighing myself can be scary
     
  13. Chris Noyb

    Chris Noyb Get in, buckle up, hang on, & be quiet.

    Location:
    Large City, TX
    Small steps are the way to go. Some people are able to dive headfirst into diet changes and exercise programs. For others small steps work best.

    As I previously posted, don't let a scale be the only judge of your progress. It's handy for measuring your progress in one area, your actual weight. But it doesn't measure some of the more important factors (IMO) such as how do you feel physically & mentally, and how your clothes fit.
     
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  14. ralphie250

    ralphie250 Fully Erect

    Location:
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    when I weigh myself, I get aggervated and then tend to want to quit. I know its not right but that's just how it makes me feel.
     
  15. spindles

    spindles Very Tilted

    Location:
    Sydney, Australia
    then don't weigh yourself - it is just a number.

    Other indicators you could use:
    a) looking slimmer
    b) reduced clothing size
    c) having more energy

    These might be less quantifiable but should be noticable over time :)
     
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  16. Street Pattern

    Street Pattern Very Tilted

    I just posted my weight graph in the health thread. I need that kind of feedback.

    My approach is to have unlimited food at breakfast, moderate lunch, and skip dinner. Or have a very minimal dinner, such as a leafy salad with only a small amount of dressing.

    In effect, I set a time, which may be anything from 11:00 am to 8:00 pm, and fast from then until I got to bed.
     
  17. rogue49

    rogue49 Tech Kung Fu Artist Staff Member

    Location:
    Baltimore/DC
    Problem is, when you start skipping meals...your body goes into starvation mode...and retains more in fat from your next meal.
    I would suggest a hearty breakfast, then several small meals thru the day. (the hard part about this effective method is finding the time to do it)
    At least, have a small dinner of substance...and still don't eat too much at breakfast.
     
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  18. Chris Noyb

    Chris Noyb Get in, buckle up, hang on, & be quiet.

    Location:
    Large City, TX
    IMO a weight graph is very useful for maintenance once a target weight range is reached,
    but weighing yourself too often early in a diet/exercise program can be counterproductive.

    For someone with really bad eating habits, small steps are the way to go. Small steps won't give immediate impressive results, and that's where weighing yourself too often can lead to "I'm giving up, this isn't working." thoughts.
     
  19. ralphie250

    ralphie250 Fully Erect

    Location:
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    The last few days have been okay, I'm eating more nuts and fruits and vegetables and some of them are good and some of them were just playing not good but like I said before baby steps gotta start somewhere the only downfall with eating boiled eggs for breakfast as they still give me some horrendous farts and people really don't like that but I really don't care I have added toast to my breakfast lunch I try to eat something decent whether it be a salad or a small steak from then I'll go local Steakhouse during lunch it really just depends on the day I'm not noticing anything different yet but I know it will take time
     
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  20. Street Pattern

    Street Pattern Very Tilted

    That didn't happen to me. See my graph in the Health Club thread.
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    The problem is getting myself to eat enough at breakfast. I'm trying to overcome the two-bites-okay-let's-go syndrome.

    At dinner, the smell of greasy fried food (for my wife and daughter) makes me sick to my stomach. Sometimes a salad is all I can realistically get down. I am not experiencing much hunger.

    Many years ago, when he was a mere lad, a friend of mine accompanied his father to the veterinarian.

    The vet advised that the dog be fed twice a day.

    My friend's father said, "I heard that a dog can get by on just one meal a day."

    The vet said: "Sure. So could you."

    My friend, who hated his father, took that remark to heart. For the next 25-plus years, he had only one meal per day.
     
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