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Bigger penis.

Discussion in 'Tilted Life and Sexuality' started by ralphie250, Feb 5, 2014.

  1. ralphie250

    ralphie250 Fully Erect

    Location:
    At work..
    i still wish i had a bigger one
     
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  2. Street Pattern

    Street Pattern Very Tilted

    I hear you. My wife's opinion is the only one that matters. And she wishes I had a bigger one.

    But all you can do is own what you've got.
     
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  3. rogue49

    rogue49 Tech Kung Fu Artist Staff Member

    Location:
    Baltimore/DC

    Can I ask you something SP...and this is VERY personal and you can tell me to STFU.

    But from your past posts about your relationship with your wife and her actions and preferences, it sounds complicated and you have had issues for quite some time.
    At least from what I'm interpreting...and I'm not using your words against you...I'm just curious. (because you've been kind enough to be straight with us, as I try to be)

    Can't it be that the issue may not be you...but what her expectations are? Real or not...or both. (it ALL blurs together)

    I had my own with my own Ex where her fickleness and narcissism and unrealistic expectations blurred together with all reality. Good and bad.
    So one moment, I could do no wrong with whatever tool and skill I had.
    And the next...I just frustrated her and pissed her off, even if I just gave her 3 orgasms and fucked for a hour. (and this could go on for some timespan...even months & years)

    You have no idea how much my confidence level was restored when I was able to start engaging with other women after our parting ...and did some good.
    Not all, but more than enough to allow me to see which way was up again. (no pun intended)

    What IF it's not you??
    What IF it's not the tool...but the wood you're working on?

    Now, I'm not saying that you should go out & about...but I'm saying that it's not all one-sided.
    People tend to take a lot upon themselves.

    This may occur in life and in the volume of interactions of millions of people daily.
    Fuckin' sex can be complicated. (who the hell thought up this "system"??? :confused:)

    I just think men (and women) should focus on having better skills, than whatever they're born with.
    Shit, if you got a sledgehammer you could break the wood.
    Or hell, if you've got a pocket-knife, you could whittle a work of art.

    IMHO, I think men should focus on their handy-work and care.
    And I think the wood has got some work to do too...stop throwing those damn knots at us. ;) ...Avoid wood rot.
     
  4. Street Pattern

    Street Pattern Very Tilted

    Yes. We had a sexless marriage, and I was very unhappy about that.

    But, in the past year, things have changed, radically.

    Our sex life is better now (for BOTH of us) than ever before. And "ever" is a long time when you're pushing 60.

    We are closer and happier as a couple than ever before.

    Honesty and communication made that possible -- including honesty about everything we wanted. And everything that was wrong. Cards on the table.

    With full mutual understanding, we have coped with our various problems.

    Both of us have problems, plural -- that's inevitable.

    (A perfect response to your wood metaphor: "Out of the crooked timber of humanity, no straight thing was ever made" -Kant)

    But a problem coped with is still an unsolved problem.

    For example, you could have a very good life married to someone who is paraplegic. The two of you could be very mobile together, with very few limitations. You wrestle the wheelchair in and out of the car without a thought. Your life could be wonderful in so many ways.

    But from time to time, you'd look at your partner, and think, or say, Damn it, I wish you could walk.

    On this issue, those are the shoes my wife walks in.
     
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  5. Daniel_

    Daniel_ The devil made me do it...

    <ghostbusters>
    Whatever you do, don't cross the streams
    </ghostbusters>
     
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  6. Chris Noyb

    Chris Noyb Get in, buckle up, hang on, & be quiet.

    Location:
    Large City, TX
    Whoa. Apparantly y'all communicate well & often. I just hope that the above subject is not a frequent topic of disussion.
    --- merged: Jan 28, 2015 at 6:44 PM ---
    This ^.
     
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  7. Street Pattern

    Street Pattern Very Tilted

    Communicating is SO much better than not communicating!

    I have never in my entire life had sex this often.
     
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  8. ralphie250

    ralphie250 Fully Erect

    Location:
    At work..
    this is one thing that we face as a couple
     
  9. Japchae

    Japchae Very Tilted

    I'm so glad my man isn't bigger. We'd have problems.
     
  10. snowy

    snowy so kawaii Staff Member

    Same.
     
  11. Street Pattern

    Street Pattern Very Tilted

    I'm grateful I'm not even smaller.

    Okay, that was snark, and technically, it's untrue. I am six feet three inches tall, which makes me taller than more than 90% of American men. I frankly cherish the unearned advantage that my height gives me. It goes a long way to make up for my natural shyness.

    Of course I am grateful that my well-below-average penis isn't even smaller. But I really try to resist the overwhelming cultural consensus to make a man the equivalent of his genitals.

    I know it makes people uncomfortable to include hard words like penis when discussing men's sexual endowments in mixed company. But this habit of leaving out the explicit language strongly reinforces the strict equivalence of penis size to masculinity and personhood.

    So frankly, when it comes this specific body part, it irritates the hell out of me to hear that some specific guy simply "is" his dick.

    "My boyfriend is quite small." "Ken is average sized." "George is very big."

    You wouldn't say it that way about a man's arm, or his nose, or even his brain.

    Now, nobody has to pay my picky linguistic preferences the slightest attention. Remember, I'm just some idiot ranting on the Internet.

    But if you (not you specifically, noodle and snowy, please don't take this personally) don't want to uphold the notion that "cock size is the measure of a man", you might want to consider how you phrase comments about it.
     
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  12. Lindy

    Lindy Moderator Staff Member

    Location:
    Nebraska
    I don't think there is any such cultural consensus, at least not among females, as many comments on this board attest. Certainly not "overwhelming" if it's there at all.
    It's not even (usually) apparent what a clothed man's dick size is. Unless you are referring to you equating yourself as the equivalent of your genitals. And height does nothing for me. I'm 5' 1" and my guy is 5' 9" and I don't think I would want him to be any taller.
    The only place where a man really "is his dick" to me seems to be in the porn industry. And that status is maybe more empha"sized" in gay culture than hetero.

    Other than on this site, I rarely discuss male endowment in mixed company. When I do discuss sexual activities, I'm not at all uncomfortable about using "hard" words like cock and dick.
    When I was younger I used to discuss it with other girls/women, but my late ex husband was a great lover (too bad he was also a practicing alcoholic) and of average size.
    And people do discuss, or at least comment on other things, like noses or brains. And boobs. A woman with prominent breasts will often be assumed to be a slut, bimbo, airhead, have implants, and not be very smart, often by other women.

    To me, the single most important "measure" of a man is that he be and conduct himself as a responsible adult.
    For me, that is what I look for first in a relationship.
    Some guys have that in their teens, some grown men never get there.
     
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  13. Street Pattern

    Street Pattern Very Tilted

    No, no, no, no, no, that's not what I meant at ALL! Shit, I should have been clearer. I am talking about LANGUAGE! And only LANGUAGE!

    I meant the cultural LINGUISTIC consensus.

    If a guy "is" some specific characteristic, everybody understands you're talking about his penis.

    Or, a little removed from the description issue, a guy who is masturbating is "playing with HIMSELF," as if the organ were the self.

    Of course people talk about noses and such. But if you were discussing, say, Alan Greenspan's big nose, you wouldn't normally say, apropos of nothing, "Alan Greenspan is really big." The word "nose" would come up somewhere!

    If a guy is picking his nose, you don't say he's "picking himself."

    Just above, in this thread, the LINGUISTIC construction of "man = penis" was used. I don't want to quote it again because I don't want to embarrass the person who happened to use it.

    I thought this was a moment I could use to point out my objection to putting things that way.
     
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  14. snowy

    snowy so kawaii Staff Member

    Same.

    Believe me, I hear/see a lot more verban and nonverbal communication about my breasts (and I assume you can say the same, @Lindy) than I talk about dicks or dick size.
     
  15. redravin

    redravin Cynical Optimist Donor

    Location:
    North
    I'm going to do a quick story and then bail out of this thread.

    My dick isn't what you'd call inspirational.
    It's a little under 6" hard and tends to turn into a turtle soft.
    My way of dealing with this, like many men, is a lot of deprecating humor.
    "Hey, I've got a 12" dick, if you measure if from my asshole."
    "One thing about Jewish, my nose and my dick ..."
    You get the picture.

    I brought this attitude into my marriage with Jadzia (and it didn't help that her previous partner was hung like a horse, I've seen the pictures).
    She never had a problem at all with the size issue, our relationship wasn't built on that and what I had served just fine.

    The problem came in when she picked up my humor about the issue.
    She would make the same jokes (and sometimes funnier ones) about my small penis.
    After all I was doing it.
    Now I'm sure most of the woman out there are going, "How could she not know that was a bad idea?"
    Part of it was she had a bit of a blind spot sometimes when it came to that kind of thing and the other part was I didn't say anything right away.
    I wanted to be cool, not tell her that it hurt me.
    But it did and it actually hurt our sex life for a while because I'm an idiot.
    Finally after some honest communication we worked it out.

    I guess the tl;dr version of this is, your own insecurities can come back and bite you on the ass even when you try to turn them into funnies.
     
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  16. Borla

    Borla Moderator Staff Member

    Fwiw, in the context of this thread (after all, look at the thread title) of course I'd assume that a guy being described here is actually referring to his penis.

    But in general conversation I don't have that thought or correlation very often. In fact, being a burly dude (I need to lose a few pounds, but even when at an ideal weight I get asked if I played football in college due to broad shoulders/chest), I've been referred to as 'Hoss', 'Big man', or when walking Stanley been told I'm the human version of a Bullmastiff. I usually assume they are talking about my body type, not my penis being like a horse, or big. That is at least partially influenced by my perception that I'm a big guy in general. I think if I was internally focused on my penis size, my first thought might be different.

    Perhaps the implications of what people are most often referring to (outside of this obvious thread on the subjects or other conversations obviously driven by the subject) are driven more internally?
     
  17. Street Pattern

    Street Pattern Very Tilted

    I don't think so. Here's a blogger making this exact point:
    All I'm doing is urging this same care in wording!

    Can you imagine a whole conversation about noses, without "nose" or any synonym, or even any possessive, being used? Jim is really big. Lori curves to the right. Don looks like a ski jump! Carolyn is kind of turned up. Bob is covered in freckles. Even in a thread titled "noses", that would look and sound weird. But delete the women's names, and it's an unremarkable way to talk about penises.
     
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  18. ralphie250

    ralphie250 Fully Erect

    Location:
    At work..
    My wife has never said anything negative about it, its mainly my insecurities. that is another discussion for another thread
     
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  19. rogue49

    rogue49 Tech Kung Fu Artist Staff Member

    Location:
    Baltimore/DC
    To quote a female pornstar, "The penis is a prop...you make love to the camera."

    And in the end, shouldn't that be what is a true intimate scenario? It's not the part, it's the person you're focused on. (or in her case, the audience)
    I'm sure women just love it when certain men focus on just one part...Not.
    It's the whole thing, the whole situation, the whole them.
    A good lover goes beyond the object.

    And a person is beyond their parts.
     
  20. Street Pattern

    Street Pattern Very Tilted

    Exactly. So I propose that people not speak about a guy as if he were just that one part. That kind of language is just insidious.

    I'll repeat the blogger quote since everybody seems to misunderstand me:
     
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