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Beards & Professionalism

Discussion in 'General Discussions' started by genuinemommy, Nov 5, 2013.

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Can a man appear professional with facial hair?

  1. Yes

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  2. No

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  1. snowy

    snowy so kawaii Staff Member


    I'd think it should be capitalized as Van Dyke, since it's a Dutch last name. ;)
     
  2. Plan9

    Plan9 Rock 'n Roll

    Location:
    Earth
    I just imagined you with said facial hair and it was totally amusing. Stroke your beard, Snowy. Stroke it. And ruminate.
     
  3. snowy

    snowy so kawaii Staff Member


    Well, the French blood means I have to wax weekly, or else do exactly that! :p
     
  4. Plan9

    Plan9 Rock 'n Roll

    Location:
    Earth
    ...I thought that was just a stereotype.
     
  5. Baraka_Guru

    Baraka_Guru Möderätor Staff Member

    Location:
    Toronto
    Good question. It's probably always a proper noun, so capitals would be warranted—kind of like Kleenex and Frisbee.
     
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  6. Charlatan

    Charlatan sous les pavés, la plage

    Location:
    Temasek
    I've had a Van Dyke since 1991 but recently grew it out to a full beard. I am still working out how long I want to grow it. I think the tropical heat of Singapore is going to battle me on this one...
     
  7. Speed_Gibson

    Speed_Gibson Hacking the Gibson

    Location:
    Wolf 359
    I love the Tor Johnson avatar Charlatan. He is fantastic in that film in a truly awful sense of the word.

    This past week I trimmed the full beard down to my more typical look, just ignore the fuzz on my head that I have been too lazy to shave lately and the poor quality from the point and shoot.
    nov2013.jpg
     
  8. ralphie250

    ralphie250 Fully Erect

    Location:
    At work..
    So that's what I would look like if I lost 200 pounds ;)
    [​IMG]
     
  9. Charlatan

    Charlatan sous les pavés, la plage

    Location:
    Temasek
    Thanks! I have a soft spot (as opposed to a smooth spot) for the film and Tor Johnson.

    Here's what my beard is looking like these days:

    [​IMG]
     
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  10. Remixer

    Remixer Middle Eastern Doofus

    Location:
    Frankfurt, Germany
    I agree with most in this thread. Beards can definitely work in a professional setting.

    Personally, I almost always sport a 3-5 day stubble, and have in recent months walked around with a light beard for a couple weeks.

    Neatness of the beard is a big factor, though. @genuinegirly Christian Bale's beard you showed and @Charlatan 's beard go very well without negatively affecting the image of professionalism (I see these beards as enhancing it in the right contexts, actually).

    No offense to @mixedmedia and @Speed_Gibson but those beards would, in my opinion, be well out of place in many places. Too much hair and/or not well-kept enough.
     
  11. Speed_Gibson

    Speed_Gibson Hacking the Gibson

    Location:
    Wolf 359
    No offense taken. I like my beard a bit longer but have no problem trimming it substantially if you offer me enough incentive; particularly something like more money than I am making now. Back in my days as a cook I kept it much shorter or just the mustache because I really hate wearing beard nets. My scalp was easy enough as I just kept it clean shaven more than i do now.
    I generally keep the chin hair just long enough to grab decently or shaved entirely, unless a work situation dictates otherwise.
    --- merged: Nov 6, 2013 at 3:11 AM ---
    for comparison (pardon any reposts) :
    back in July of this year -

    resized-june2013-.jpg
    back in 2004 when I actually had dark hair still
    resized-21apr2004-self_pic.jpg

    or back in 2002 with a properly trimmed full beard (I have a colour shot taken at the same time and angle which shows my whopping 3 or 4 grey hairs)-
    sep2002.jpg
     
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  12. Charlatan

    Charlatan sous les pavés, la plage

    Location:
    Temasek
    I wish I could grow one like this without the in-between stage. I think I will have a go when I take my Christmas break and see what kind of length I can add. I like the handlebar moustache part.
     
  13. rogue49

    rogue49 Tech Kung Fu Artist Staff Member

    Location:
    Baltimore/DC
    It sometimes depends on where you are sporting the beard.
    Some locations are more conservative than others.

    I find that DC is much more conservative than other cities.
    The Federal Government dominates...so they expect certain looks in all the contracting offices.

    I find it works fine, as long as it is clean and controlled.
    Scraggly and uncut won't do here.

    I sport a short goatee myself.
    I feel for me it accentuates the jawline and a bonus of hiding the little sag under the jaw.
    Plus, it off-sets the full bald head I have.

    I can do a full beard...I just can't stand the itching after a while.
    And I've tried a Van Dyke, but it hides my smile...I look too grim.
    Plus with my bald head, I look a bit too much like Mephistopheles.

    The only problem I have now, is whether to color it or not.
    I'm not opposed, it's just that I don't like the fuss...or I don't remember to keep it up.
     
  14. mixedmedia

    mixedmedia ...

    Location:
    Florida
    No offense taken. I totally avoided the 'is it professional part?' because I am a beardaholic. I realize that most of those beards wouldn't cut it in the professional world, but I don't see what is wrong with the beard the Charles re-posted up there or Zach's beard. I would trust an accountant or a lawyer with one of those beards.

    But anyway, guys who sport the full, natural beards in general don't live in the office culture anyway.
     
  15. Remixer

    Remixer Middle Eastern Doofus

    Location:
    Frankfurt, Germany
    The professional world, outside of the Arts, IT industry and California apparently, is pretty conservative and first impressions make a tremendous difference.

    Just like with the clothes you choose for your professional appearance, beards and hairstyles have to be carefully selected and must fit the person in question.

    I used to lightly gel my hair and cleanly shaved my face until roughly 2 years ago, when I found that my natural hair and trimmed stubble fit me much better. At the same time, I don't think I could ever rock @Charlatan 's beard.

    The beard Charlatan reposted doesn't fit the male model and it's something that would, in my mind, truly fit only very few faces. I've only ever met two professionals (one German, the other Austrian) who were able to pull off a handlebar moustache, and adding to that the heavy full beard makes it very difficult. I'm not optimistic about it working out on Charlatan's face, but will be happy to see the results.

    And while I love Zach Galifanikis, he looks super dorky with his beard.

    EDIT: My father sports a thicker version of the beard below, and it is marvelous.

    [​IMG]
     
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  16. mixedmedia

    mixedmedia ...

    Location:
    Florida
    I feel differently.
     
  17. Remixer

    Remixer Middle Eastern Doofus

    Location:
    Frankfurt, Germany
    Agreed.
     
  18. Chris Noyb

    Chris Noyb Get in, buckle up, hang on, & be quiet.

    Location:
    Large City, TX
    The beard needs to fit the person wearing it, and grooming is important, esp for "white collar" professionals. I see guys with unruly beards that look great, a certain presence is required to pull off that look. Some guys go for the 'five day growth' beards; it works for some and others look ridiculous.

    I've grown a Van Dyke over the past couple of weeks. It's not a great beard, but on me it's better than a full beard because my beard has some nearly bare patches that show even if I let it grow long.

    One my neighbors has a 'skimpy' full beard, but it works for him, and he's been wearing for at least 22 years.

    A fellow at a music store that we patronize has one of the wimpiest & crappiest beards that I've ever seen. The hairs are very sparse, his beard looks like something a 13 year might try to grow. Before anyone jumps my ass for being judgemental, he openly admits to having received many negative comments (I keep my mouth shut) re his beard.

    On a side note--Beards can be used to stimulate sensitive body parts.
     
  19. snowy

    snowy so kawaii Staff Member

    Speed's beard is just fine for professionalism in the PacNW, though, as are many of the beards Mixed posted.

    The times are a changin' when it comes to facial hair, I think.
     
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  20. Borla

    Borla Moderator Staff Member

    @snowy and @rogue49 's comments are part of why I mentioned region in my first post. I think beards are becoming more acceptable in professional settings as time goes on, but I definitely see a regional distinction. The PacificNW is probably most accepting, with the Upper Midwest and maybe the Deep South somewhere right behind that. The NE is lagging far behind in the beardolution. Yeah, I just made that a word.
     
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