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Are you Gay if. . . . .?

Discussion in 'Tilted Life and Sexuality' started by Knight Templar, Oct 27, 2012.

  1. Zen

    Zen Very Tilted

    Location:
    London
    Hi, SolitaryMan

    May I add my welcome to that of the others.

    Regarding shemales and sexual/gender identity/preference of the observer, I remember coming across some futanari a few months ago. I can't find a link to the vids, but here's a wiki article:

    Futanari - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    It does not answer your question, but I reckon it may provide useful jumping-off grounds for further exploration.

    My own starting point when I do, see, respond to something and I say "Does this mean I am X", is to say "Well, it COULD do, but sure as heck, it could mean MANY other things, too, instead of or as well as X ... let's ponder awhile and lay them on the table."
    My next point is to ask "Is this meaning I'm inquiring into about Me thinking about Me, or is it about ME thinking about Others thinking about me?" There will be some blurring, since all this is happening in my own head, but like in Alistair's "Penile Pulchritude" thread, with that magnificent set of pictures of others' responses, we CAN get a feeling for others seeing us .... accurately, inaccurately or anywhere between.
    My next point is to feel confused and come to the interim conclusion that I prefer this place of multiple possibilities to the old place of "Am I this Or Not".

    And what's the use of being in this place? What's the basis for my preference?
    Well ... your relationship with the shemale content is just one mark in your history. Other events in your life, past, present, future, may or may not be relevant to this shemale content. If relevant, they will serve to make some possibilities more likely, and some less. Further events will, cumulatively, refine your sense of trends and likelihoods among those possibilities; and you add infinite richness to your exploration.


    Meanwhile, as you let that process in the back of your mind, please enjoy my "WELCOME TO THIS FORUM" gift to you: One of my favourite shemale/transvestite adverts of all time. I could not find it in the original English, so I'll mention that at 0:30, when he says "good bum", it gets translated as "Bonzer". This is incorrect. He really IS saying "Good Bum", which translates into American as "Nice Ass"


    At the time it came out .. 1999, I think it made good foundation to conversations that needed to happen.

    Best wishes :)
     
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  2. rogue49

    rogue49 Tech Kung Fu Artist Staff Member

    Location:
    Baltimore/DC
    Listen...I don't consider myself liberal.
    More like a true social Libertarian ...I really don't give a fuck.
    You live your life, I live mine, you like what you like, I like what I like...don't fuck with people, we won't fuck with you.

    My attitude towards the whole thing is don't get caught up in definitions,
    but if you want to be real about it, I put it to my male cousin who was asking this way.
    You look at pussy...and say mmm...then you're straight, you look at dick and say mmm...then you're gay.
    If you look at both and say mmm...then you're bi. If you look at either and don't say anything...then you're sexually inactive.

    It's not that friggin' hard.
    And it really doesn't matter.

    Remember, the simple indicator...ARE YOU ATTRACTED TO IT?

    And YES, if you're looking at She-Males and you're attracted to it, you are likely bi in SOME way. (IF you want to categorize it)
    Again, this does NOT matter.
    Do what you will, like what you like....and everyone else can take a flying fuckin' leap.

    But what you ARE doing to yourself by trying to categorize this one way or another is confusing the issue.
    There is no issue. People like what they like, for whatever reason.

    Me? I like pussy...don't know why. Just do, it's strange how it affects me.
    Dick...doesn't affect me at all...unless I see it a certain way...then I'm revolted. WHY? I have no fuckin' clue.
    And I've certainly had enough gay men try to attract me...I just say nah...and it's over, fine.
    Whatever.

    Now I'm not going to go around saying I'm this way, or that way...or otherwise.
    I don't feel it's necessary...but maybe that's because I'm a part of the current long-time "accepted" category.
    Maybe because the other categories are not as "approved" then someone feels the need to define themselves more.
    But if you're going around saying I'm THIS or I'm THAT or I'm in-between...then that's part of the problem.

    Let it go. There's no need to define this.
    You are what you are, you like what you like.
    People just need to get over it.
    Whatever gets you through...

    hmph...next thing you know, people will be asking about dick size or boob size...Wait? What? ;)
     
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  3. MeltedMetalGlob

    MeltedMetalGlob Resident Loser Donor

    Location:
    Who cares, really?
    Agreed.

    Now that the serious answers have been given, it's time to cut loose!
    [​IMG]
     
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  4. AlterMoose

    AlterMoose Slightly Tilted

    Location:
    Pangaea
    I honestly doubt I can offer any input that hasn't been covered already--damn, I hate coming late to the party, especially such a groovy topic as this. But I'm always happy to drop in a little extra encouragement. By now, you've learned that pretty much the entire spectrum of tastes and preferences is covered in this crowd. There are those who don't mind a little sweet talk and missionary-position sex, and there are the tri-sexuals ("I'll TRY anything once, and do it again if I like it). If it gets you off, go for it. Damn the labels, damn the opinions of the world at large. You've got a freak flag. Fly it, my friend. Fly it high, fly it proud!
    --- merged: Oct 29, 2012 at 12:38 AM ---
    Off-topic, but I have to say Huzzah for giant dildos, and for those who appreciate them!
     
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  5. Knight Templar

    Knight Templar Holy Warrior

    Location:
    Struthers,Ohio
    O.K. I can understand no color posts, but my font size was to big ? I am a little surprised that this thread is up to page 4 ! Hope this size is O. K. ? (#3 ) and "Long Live Newhalf "
     
  6. Joniemack

    Joniemack Beta brainwaves in session

    Location:
    Reading, UK
    Are you insinuating that a larger font size contributed to 4 pages of comments? (or at least didn't hinder response?) Seems that you are. People here don't care how big your font is. People responded because it's an interesting topic.

    I must say though, you now have me wondering what it is you're trying to compensate for. Is a #3 necessary? Is there something wrong with the font size the rest of us use?
     
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  7. Remixer

    Remixer Middle Eastern Doofus

    Location:
    Frankfurt, Germany
    You live in the UK now.

    We're merely worthless plebs in the eyes of the beholder.
     
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  8. aabbccbbaa2

    aabbccbbaa2 Vertical

    interesting thread... :)

    allow me to write down some thoughts... might be based on personal experiences ;-)

    • You like girls (not gay!)
    • you like having sex with girls (not gay!)
    • One day a girl put her finger in your ass to stimulate your prostate, you climaxe like you've never climaxed before and you love it... (not gay!)
    • You want to take this one step further, and you ask the girl to fuck you in the ass with a strap-on... (not gay!?)
    • Suddenly you wonder if it would be hot to get fucked in the ass by a real dick, but only with a shemale... (not gay?)
     
  9. Xerxes

    Xerxes Bulking.

    This is exactly what I mean. Shemales are feminine in every way a woman is so I don't see why that has to move in the gay direction or even register as bi.
     
  10. Baraka_Guru

    Baraka_Guru Möderätor Staff Member

    Location:
    Toronto
    Except maybe the dick part?

    Shemales are like magical beings.

    Why don't we just consider them creatures from the faerie realm? That way we can say, "If it's fae, it's not gay."

    I mean, who doesn't want a bit of magic in their life? "Magic wands" are no exception.
     
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  11. Plan9

    Plan9 Rock 'n Roll

    Location:
    Earth
    And the coffee hits the screen.

    Female sexuality may be tied to secondary sex characteristics, clothing, etc., but the male side? It's all cock, all the time. Presence of and use.

    I'm an incredibly boring heterosexual whose most twisted fantasies involve two chicks, so I'm hardly an expert here... but logic would dictate that the primary reason why tranny porn is popular with the weenie gazing crowd isn't specifically because the he/shes are found physically attractive... it's because they have that different plumbing. That's the real focus, amiright? These guys/gals (?) wanna see the dick, not just the chick part.

    The "I'm okay, you're okay, is this gay?" crap aside, of course.
     
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  12. cynthetiq

    cynthetiq Administrator Staff Member Donor

    Location:
    New York City
    thank god.

    that means brojobs are okay.

    [​IMG]
     
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  13. the_jazz

    the_jazz Accused old lady puncher

    I never knew you had a thing for Asians:

     
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  14. mixedmedia

    mixedmedia ...

    Location:
    Florida
    It's kind of funny, also, that given a choice between maybe liking men and maybe liking fairies, the modern male would almost always choose the fairies.
     
  15. Alistair Eurotrash

    Location:
    Reading, UK
    Me? I'm more old-fashioned, but this is what lads from the 80s onwards crave, or so I understand ...

    [​IMG]
     
  16. Zen

    Zen Very Tilted

    Location:
    London
    Hi Mr Solitary Man

    Fairies :)
    This is where I do my 6-monthly mention of my crush, since 1962, on Tinkerbell.

    And share something a friend told me years ago: "If a cat has kittens in an oven, that does not make them biscuits (cookies)"

    And a thought that popped into my head last night: "are you goy if ... you like watching gentile porn?"

    And I'll get my coat :D
     
  17. Baraka_Guru

    Baraka_Guru Möderätor Staff Member

    Location:
    Toronto
    To speak more specifically to the obvious, this whole "shemale" thing is basically porn featuring a transwoman: a man who is transitioning to a woman, both in terms of sex and gender. More specifically, they are transsexual women.

    Maybe the sexual appeal to straight men is this idea of a man who can become a woman. Almost like magic, a person who was previously unattractive has become sexually attractive despite retaining male genitalia. If one can argue that men generally obsess about their own genitalia, maybe it's another's retaining of it that fascinates men and attracts them sexually to transsexual women. Maybe they see it as the best of all worlds: a sexually attractive being with the power of a cock.

    I don't know. At this point I'm just thinking as I type as a stream of thought.

    I was only half kidding about the fae thing.

    Can you be straight and be attracted to transwomen? Well, I don't see why not. Transwomen take actions to shift toward the female identity, while transsexual women in specific go a route that should appeal to straight men: they get breasts, change their waist-to-hip ratio, their voice, etc. In other words, they do things that make themselves more attractive to straight men.

    After all of this, we are still down to the penis.

    What is it with straight men and the penis on a transsexual woman?
     
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  18. I must say ive been in that position where ive seen what i thought was a female and thought "whooaah, how hot is she?", only to have her broad shoulders give it away that it was a she-male.

    So yes, i think hetro males can be attracted to she-males in the simplest sense without endangering their masculinity and heterosexual-ness. The question is, if i still thought she was hot after i realised that she had a cock, have i then jumped the fence? I think not.. I hope not. I mean she is still beautiful..except for the cock bit.
     
  19. Levite

    Levite Levitical Yet Funky

    Location:
    The Windy City
    I hope not. Because so far, I haven't found any alternatives.
     
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  20. Indigo Kid

    Indigo Kid Getting Tilted

    The only thing negative dude is that your using a huge font-size. Smaller is better (in THIS case) LOL! ~Unless you have really bad eyes, then we all forgive you.