Are you Gay if. . . . .?

If you like watching shemale porn (or even gay porn, for that matter), it doesn't make you gay. It means you're turned on by watching that type of behavior.
If you would actually participate in that type of behavior (or do), then we might move into the realm of "perhaps I'm not as straight as I thought I was."

Also, to be blunt, what difference does it make whether you're gay or not? You're you, and you like what you like, and nobody should be able to take that away from you. Watch whatever the heck you want, just so long as it's not hurting anybody else.

 

I love that sentiment, I really do.
But within the realm of average 'male fraternal interaction' it still doesn't fly. So much so that a man's entire self-identification is threatened by feelings that might not fit into the acceptable male sexual persona. And it is self-perpetuating. I think it's kind of fascinating and regrettable at the same time. I wonder what it might be like if things were different. I like thinking about that.

 

I wouldn't say that she-male porn means you're gay. It might mean you can't claim a zero on the Kinsey scale. But then, who really can?

 

As it happens, there was a programme about "ladyboys" in the Phillipines on TV this evening, focusing on two couples (the men were both Westerners). On reflection, I don't think that the guys are gay. They just find themselves attracted to women with cocks. They want the femininity (and they are very feminine and beautiful) and I guess they want cock, too. They didn't consider themselves gay but both said that, if other people thought they were, that was fine.

 

when you think about it in a certain way, concentration on the organ is so superficial. why can't a man enjoy a penis without feeling conflicted about it? he's got one after all. It's so...defeatist. In some ways, women are so much freer. One of those poignant ironies of life.

 

You know, I wanted to say something like "Where do you see it going?" And maybe I was gonna answer with a smartass retort like "Oh, like those limp-wrists in Europe?" And then I realized I'm completely, thoroughly brainwashed by everything that made me what I am today. I am a Hetero American Male (TM) automaton and cannot literally even fathom a world that isn't as mine has been constructed. And in this small way I realize I'm the thing I detest most: a person that can't see outside the box because he doesn't know he's even in one. I'd be sad except, well, that isn't manly.

That said, dicks are fuckin' ugly... and there isn't a man or woman on the planet that doesn't enjoy looking at nice tits.

 

fuck you. cocks are beautiful. that you can't see it and it is, jeesh, a part of your own body.
man, such self-loathing.
yes.
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it is ironic.

 

And that they look ridiculous to you means what exactly?
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can we at least start off from the point that if a woman were to come to this site and state that her vagina was ridiculous looking, that there would be a line-up way down the corridor of men and women anxious to set her straight about how she needs to learn to love her vagina more. your penis is not ridiculous. it's a lovely thing.

so is the guy's who sits next to you at work. i bet.

 

It's not about attraction. It's about having an open mind. If you want to feel hard-wired to thinking that your penis looks ridiculous, then, hey, who am I to question? On a personal level, I don't care. But I tend to think that the world is wider than that. Imagine that.
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In fact, I know the world is wider than that. Same sex behavior is hardly limited to 'gay sex' and any one place and time. I don't think it's me who is doing a lot of reading into things.

 

After 31 posts after my question not one mean comment, if I had posted this question else where I would have more negative comments. I my self find nothing wrong with shemale porn !

 

um ok. never said you weren't ok. now we all know you're ok.
never asked you to be ashamed of anything, either.
bummer conversation.

 

Members here don't have constipated minds and I didn't imply anything about you Martian

 

well, I think that the person I directed the 'fuck you' to is not so uptight to take it at face value. it was a joke. I'm am not being hostile. In fact, you seem to be escalating in hostility. You can, indeed, stop talking about it if it bothers you. Your input is not at all what I was hoping for. So, yeah, you can stop feeling pressured to share your feelings any time now. thanks.

 

I'm impressed with the thoughtful responses in this thread. Generally, a little levity can make a serious situation or concern seem a bit less dire. I know I appreciate it. I have nothing to add except welcome to Solitary Man and that I agree with the other forum members who answered your question very comprehensively. I think that we have a broad spectrum of sexual tastes and desires and often, labels can be extremely confining.

 

Yes, you missed something there. I really don't appreciate being painted into a corner because you happened to misinterpret something I said and was offended by it. I, too, have been calm and collected, and even a little light-hearted, in my responses on this thread. Perhaps if you saw it from my point of view you would understand that your behavior seems confrontational. I'm sorry if I offended you by insisting that penises are beautiful. I can't even believe I just typed that. But here in a public discussion forum everyone gets to share their opinion. And no one's opinion is protected from the contrary opinions of others. And there are a variety of ways in which a person can respond. For instance, depending on the subject matter, I can respond very emphatically or, more typically, with tongue-in-cheek. It's not my responsibility to make sure you know the difference. One might take a clue by the fact that we are talking about penises here. Penises are a fun discussion. That's what I want. Not this shit.