Are Men in Trouble?

I'm sensing a wonderful OCM-style tirade.

Oh... oh... it's gonna bust outta my chest like a Xenomorph!

GAHHHHHRRRRHHHHGGGAAAGGG!!! *SPLAT*

That's good but it's not the end. We also need to examine how masculinity is pretty much meaningless in such an egalitarian metrosexual society (America!) that is slowly poisoning itself with petrochemicals that will, given enough generations, make us asexual/hermaphrodites. That and sex only matters in first world countries when you're talking pay scales and what you do with your pants off. Proper White People, as a whole, don't cook, clean or engage in manual labor unless these things are related to some type of hobby. We've achieved XX/XY enlightenment and, as a result, most of those manly men have been killed off like the vast majority of the megafauna that roamed the Earth back when it was cool to be a 900 pound sloth.

So, in conclusion, I proffer the following: Lawyers have replaced manly men. Mexicans have replaced our women.

Or, perhaps, in the timeless words of those lyrical masters known as Slipknot: People = Shit.

And not just men.

/how'd I do?

 

I must know a lot of improper white folks.

 

Without reading the full thread, the big problem comes from schooling. The purple ribbons and gold stars for Cs is what started this. The last generation and the current generation in America are filled with a bunch of lazy men who want everything handed to them, and don't want to earn a damn thing. How many people complain about illegal immigration causing them to lose jobs yet, when in high school skipped 70% of their classes for weeks on end? How many men cry about football and basketball players making millions "to play a child's game", yet do put in 1% of the time in the gym that they do and are currently 50% overweight?

Not saying all men fall into this group, and that there aren't women who are doing the same thing as men. The whole "I can never find a good man, all men are dogs", yet only go to the club on a Tuesday night meeting up with the scumbags in town. The last two generations of females have tried harder and worked more than the male counter parts. Either to try and even the playing field or to try and take over the world. There is a bigger school drive in women than in men. There is a bigger drive to climb the corporate ladder in females than males.

BTW: masculinity hasn't died because "men cried", "metrosexuality", or "Adam and Steve". Its a bunch of grown ass men not being true fathers for the kids and allowing two generations at a time to fuck up. Real men are fathers first, friends second. Not anymore. Real men work hard to make a better life for their children, not try to skip out on child support so that the mom is playing many roles.

 

^^ yeah, what that guy said... I'm too lazy to come up with more.

 

Sorry, I don't buy your "a real man is a parent" line. Reproduction today is a hobby, not a necessity. You can argue the feminine feelings and hair care products and homo marriages, but the reproduction trap is a no-go. Because I'm never going to be a parent. My disgust at the overpopulation and subsequent destruction of the planet has nothing to do with my ability to eat beef jerky and put you in an arm bar. Reproduction is a choice that I am not engaging in because I'm man enough to realize that the world doesn't need another screaming poo factory sucking on its ravaged tit.

 

what if it was changed to "every 'real' man is a role-model"? that way society still benefits and people can still engage in voluntary sterility

 

Role models? How is it a "real man" is a role model and yet I never here the phrase "If you were a real woman, you'd ____," huh?

 

"a real man is a role model for future men"? isn't that like "we study history so that we can teach history"?

 

Yeah, but you can't just lump role model-hood on men, especially the subset of fathers. Fathers are supposed to go out and earn the bacon, amiright? Nothing less manly than Mr. Mom, right? The overwhelming majority of primary education teachers are female. I spent more time interacting with female strangers during the formative years of my life than I did my own parents. Flesh and blood daddy and mommy have to work, sometimes nights and weekends. As a latchkey kid, my idea of male role models came from movies and television... the real parents of the Static Age.

 

I don't think being Mr. Mom makes you any less a man. But it's all in how you perceive things I guess. a couple years back i met a lady down here and we started "seeing" each other. One night instead of going out for dinner I invited her here, said I'd cook. I did and then I started to clean up and do the dishes real quick. She didn't like it at all. "Men don't do these things" she told me. Ummm, ok.

 

We're making up for lost time. Men have been calling the shots on women's behalf, dictating what it is to be a proper woman, for decades.
/sarcasm

I'm taking this quote of its original context, but it's still applicable to this discussion in the following context.

"If you were a real woman, you'd:"
- leave the decision making to your husband;
- stay in the kitchen and out of the work force;
- put on a dress and fix your hair/makeup/jewelry/etc. so you look as feminine as you should;
- set a good example for your daughters by obeying your husband;
- not worry about anything going on outside your own home;

It sounds antiquated, and yes times are changing, but sadly this mentality is far from gone.

This is (partially) why women are in trouble:



And this is why men are in "trouble:"

 

Nature defines it.

 

Fixed that for you.

 

I say this because there are respective qualities, strengths and weaknesses inherent to men and women.

 

The feminist movement turned it into a cultural thing. But since the beginning of mankind, men have always been the strong fighters, hunters and initiators and women have always been the nurturers, child raisers and responders.

 

Always? And you know this how? Setting aside for a moment the accuracy of your claims, they still don't invalidate the idea of masculinity as a cultural phenomena. Human culture has been around as long as humanity.

 

No, but they trump the claim that masculinity is cultural because nature precedes culture.

 

Masculinity manifests via culture. Masculinity didn't exist prior to culture.